Why would it be Anita Sarkeesian? Googled her and she also hasn’t really done anything new in 10 years, and her mainstream outlet is retired. So what’s the deal?
Sure, and vote for the zero “weapons restrictions” politicians. Because too bad a few kids die if my campaign donors lose even a quarterly percent if we stop selling military weapons.
Not true. Even a person of faith can make the conscious choice of not providing any support in the form of votes to the politicians who keep striking down gun reform. It’s a case of “What one permits, one promotes.” If someone isn’t willing to do something, anything which will make an actual difference no matter how small that might be, to move the needle in the direction of ending the regularity of this violence, they are willing to let it happen. Too many people will take the “Well, thankfully it’s not happening in my area.” approach, which just lets… Read more »
It’s more about the people in positions of power and authority who CAN work toward change simply not bothering and offering platitudes instead. And then there are the people who don’t even WANT change because the guns apparently have more rights than the potential victims.
As a person of faith myself, what we can do is stop acting like hypocrites who have no agency at all in this. What the typical American “Christian” believes has absolutely nothing to do with what the Bible says, and they as a whole have been led into this strange philosophy where every single lesson that Jesus taught is neatly compartmentalized into Sunday morning and taught with asterisks and footnotes. These people make me feel embarrassed to even state my faith. You who support this, have no idea what the faith is that you pretend to be affiliated with. “Then… Read more »
And to any of you who’d reply back, “But what about what the rAdICaL LeFT is doing?!” Enough with the whataboutism. Make like Matthew 7 and take the log out of your own eye before you start criticizing other people for the specks in theirs.
Precisely so. Leave the whataboutisms, the cherry picking, and the compartmentalizing behind. Few things irritate me as much as cherry pickers who use that cherry picking to justify their bigotry and terrible treatment of others.
A faith and being faithful to it ties the faithful to some of the problems every faith has (just as every political party, and so on). Being a rabid atheist has issues too. Faith isn’t all the problem, but a fair number of Christians in the US wouldn’t be recognized by Christians in other countries – some churches and maybe some that deserve the name cult are part of the problem. What are the major reasons a society has violence and mass shootings? Insufficient mental health resources that are affordable, a society that venerates firearms and violence, corporations related to… Read more »
ears
16 hours ago
What video game would have you actually killing friends and not enemies from the ingame lore point of view?
Even as incompetent people as the traditional media wouldn’t describe Quake Arena and the like as “pretending to be an assassin”.
Maybe Spy in Team Fortress 2, but that’s still killing the enemy team. At least in amongus the imposter does actually pretends (or supposed to pretend) to be friends with everyone.
It doesn’t even really need to be a real game. In fact, probably was intended to not sound like any one particular game. This is probably like the “Immortal Thirst” storyline, in which it could literally be one of hundreds of games on the market, so there’s no reason to single out one.
I think you’re confusing the multiplayer of earlier AC games with what Unity had. In Unity, it’s only co-op with a friend, no trying to kill them. The previous ones where you try to kill other players they aren’t portrayed as your friend in universe.
They probably mean “friends” as in other players.
Not like they are putting much thought into it.
Also they are wrong about one other thing.
Many games are based on real historical events (battles and wars) or general way things worked in human history (f.ex. there are wars in games like Civilization).
So, games don’t cause violence.Violence causes video games. 😉
The bully effect will cause people to not be your friend so they don’t get bullied, too. Als people will be prevented from seeking friendships because people will randomly join the bullying (disappointment / danger of more suffering)
GUNnibal
16 hours ago
This feels like the beginning of a new conflict between our dynamic duo and Elija (the super fast guy), since this was almost exactly his argument last time they met.
Yeah, I suspect his first reuse of his powers will be in defense of his store or against Elija at the very least.
Jack0r
15 hours ago
Is video game scape goating still a thing in your part of the world?
It was really big before like 2010 where I live, but then died down rapidly when gaming went from a thing kids and nerds did to something that everyone and their mom did.
Haven’t heard any video game scape goating in at least 10 years.
Of course it’s still a thing in the USA. Mass shootings are still a thing in the USA. And most politicians will blame anything and I mean anything to avoid addressing the real problem: the easy access to guns that were designed specifically to kill humans. If the shooter played violent video games, you bet your butt they’re gonna bring that up. It’s more common to go after the mental health of the shooter (while of course voting against any bill that might make access to mental health care easier and more affordable), along with the typical useless “thoughts and… Read more »
Just because people are dumb enough to believe it doesn’t make it true, people still think that republicans are good for the economy even though every economic recession that we’ve had in the last thirty or forty years has been caused by them and their stupid idea that if you give rich people more money that they will just share
If conservative media wasn’t considered trustworthy or credible, we wouldn’t have a felon in the white house now, would we? This is not the world of our fathers and grandfathers. We have corporations who have spent billions on understanding crowd psychology and how to subtly influence people to think and feel and choose one way or the other. Our reliance on the internet for media, and how it uses personalized algorithms to show people news articles, videos, clips, and memes that will resonate with us and drive up engagement, has made it so that people are extremely manipulatable, into thinking… Read more »
Liberal media isn’t the one being found repeatedly in studies to have more people ignorant of issues after watching it than if they watched no media at all, only conservative media has that distinction. I don’t think liberal media is completely trustworthy, but the distinction is pretty clear
Who he specifically denounced right before he said the “very fine people” part. The actual quote is something along the lines of “…and I’m not talking about the N@zis or white supremacists, because they should be condemned every time…” and so on.
He only said that after because he realized how bad it looks, it sounded like he was giving them a free pass and he kinda was since what the other side was protesting was taking down a statue dedicated to slavery
Maybe we can find a common ground? My mind is very open to the idea that both sides aren’t out for the best of their citizens. Sure I might have a preference to one side, but if I see how the lobby works I think the votes of people is too easily overruled. They give some tokens here and there along the party line, then make some decisions, legal or not, that suspiciously is in great advantage of someone powerful. My two cents? If you think that the politicians have the best intentions for you, you’ve got it wrong. There… Read more »
They’re considered credible to the people who watch them and that’s really all that matters. They’ll say it and then millions of people will believe it.
“Interesting” thing – the guns aren’t inherently the problem, but the people who wield them. It’s the whole “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” thing. I’m not saying it shouldn’t be harder to get a gun in the US – I think it absolutely should – but the real problem is all the fear mongering. Libs of TikTok once posted a map of American schools as “sites of Anti-American activity.” People like Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh are telling their listeners all the time that teachers are trans-ing their kids in schools. There’s a general anti-education rhetoric throughout the… Read more »
You know, some years ago I thought that what the US needs to prevent shootings and lower the level of gun violence is stricter gun control. But then I found out that in Switzerland the percentage of weaponry in the hands of civil population is not lower (and I think even higher) than in the US. And still we don’t hear about frequent shootings in that country. so yeah, it seems that the main problem is not in guns, but in heads. :-/ (I must say, I am not an American. European. Own a couple of guns, for sports mainly.… Read more »
Although the problem is partly in the heads, there is a reason guns shouldn’t be allowed for many reasons. In Switzerland and several other countries the guns have a whole other culture behind it. There is much less a self defence culture, and guns are thought of as dangerous things that should be handled with care. There’s emphasis in handling them correctly at all times, and little precedence to use them in defensive scenarios. In short, there is gun control. It just isn’t legislation. Another is the ease. Did you know that the most people in the USA dying from… Read more »
The “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” is a rubbish argument. What guns do is allow people to kill and damage over distance in quantity. A gun’s only function is to destroy, it has no other purpose. The UK, where I live, had a school gun massacre in 1996. It led to tighter gun legislation and we have not had a school gun massacre since. People still own guns (my friend has 8!) but they are not easily available over the counter for a couple of hundred pounds to anyone who passes a cursory check. Fear mongering is not… Read more »
‘Gargling old piss’ party. Same issue, different day. heaven help them if they are Made to swallow, not spit. Bullets X10 the cost and locked up tighter than legal marijuana or firing pins DNA coded. Easy solve.
It’s certainly not as loud as it used to be, but there are still some people consistently trying to link events like this to video games. It just tends to get quickly buried under all the OTHER scapegoating.
I feel like those voices might be a bit louder in a world that has actual video game themed vigilantes.
Only in the United States, less often now cause its not being secretly funded by the NRA. NRA used to sponsor groups who were anti-video game violence, like Jack Thompson and other “experts” and trot them out to the news networks. Since all the news outlets were scared to be sued by the NRA… they took the scrapes they offered to fill air time. Nowadays, gun manufacturers earn tonnes of money for licensing their trademarks/copyright on their guns to the big games like Call of Duty etc. and see games effecting weapon sales. They don’t want to bring attention to… Read more »
They literally just did this with Luigi Mangione in December. So yeah, it’s still a thing. (This is from the NYPOST, but many outlets ran with the same “news”)
It is ironic. The amount of violence and death in music, movies, series, and even just the news is easily comparable. In how many movies it is even glorified? How many are more realistic than video games?
Just imagine if they ran with other games in his library.”
“Suspected killer Luigi Mangione spent years training in 1 – vs – 100 death matches on remote island.”
“Suspected killer Luigi Mangione found to be millions of Bells in debt to Tanooki loan shark”
“Suspected killer Luigi Mangione found to have dated, married, and divorced twelve individuals in small valley town; refuses to comment on the dozens of children turned into doves.”
Jedi
15 hours ago
Luckily, that scapegoat is a blast from the past …. i hope ?
“Where is a police man
when you need one
to blame the color TV”
Del Cox
14 hours ago
Well that’s not the direction I was expecting the story to go.
Qstknight
14 hours ago
I remember the time before video games when playing D&D and listening to heavy metal music was the scapegoats for something like this.
Brian
12 hours ago
Yeah, the title of this is making sense now get a feeling someone is gonna have issue with videogame-themed supers in the city.
Daniel
12 hours ago
Oh! So we get the return of this “anti-gaming” guy, whose name I don’t remember but have superspeed and brother killed by gamer?
PhobosRising
11 hours ago
Now would be the perfect time for Ethan to gamble with his power, put on a jesus outfit, and go fuck with the zealots. Full “mental middle-finger so hard it scratches the itch on your shoulder”. By death 8 he will have an off-shoot cult that would make Josef Seed jealous.
At this rate, I’m just hoping for the apocalypse. My mother’s side came from Germany’s ww2. I have no desire to have similar stories for my children. If conservatives want power so much they think playing gestapo is a good idea, trying to nominate a pope to shield their actions, taking basic rights from others… burn it to core so even prepper bunkers are vaporized. Turn this shitshow into a fireworks show that would make 4th of july ones feel limp.
Last edited 7 hours ago by PhobosRising
Casra
10 hours ago
😐
Merida
8 hours ago
Amongus
Joel
8 hours ago
Can’t believe no one has dropped this one in here yet.
Video games don’t cause violence. Lag does.
Eldest Gruff
4 hours ago
I find this storyline has a funny little irony here. On one hand, there’s what Lucas is saying in panel 2, which echoes my own frustration at how we (that is, American culture, sorry, rest of the world) just refuse to actually do anything to stop the violence; especially when the most obvious answer is gun control. On the other hand… well, “Vigilante superheroes hiding amongst the people, springing forth to stop crime,” really isn’t all that different from “The answer to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” And yeah, they could register… Read more »
Timmeh
1 hour ago
To remember that Tim writes these comics WAYYY in advance, and it could coincide with a shooting…
In America, shootings are not hard to accidentally coincide with. Collegehumor joked about abc ceo needing to block airing “School Shooter Shooter”. Ask Australians what happened after their big shooting.
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Is their world’s version of Jack Thompson about to appear?
Jack Thompson did interact with Ethan 1.0 if you count the animated series as canon.
Wouldn’t be the first time Tim’s brought him up.
Nah got to update the material, it’s Anita Sarkeesian equivalent now. Thompson hasn’t been relevant in 10 years at least.
Had to google this Anita thingy … wish I didn’t … *sigh*
Why would it be Anita Sarkeesian? Googled her and she also hasn’t really done anything new in 10 years, and her mainstream outlet is retired. So what’s the deal?
neck beards gonna neck beard
Can’t be a man who is causing the problem if a woman was in the space at any point.
oh my god get bent you gamergaters
They’re skipping “thoughts and prayers” because pretending to give a shit has gotten too hard to do.
True, I think it’s “things like that take place” by now.
Shit happens when you study..ehrm… Heavily armed?
I think it’s unfair to assume those who offer thoughts and prayers are only pretending. For most people of faith, it’s the only thing they CAN do.
Sure, and vote for the zero “weapons restrictions” politicians. Because too bad a few kids die if my campaign donors lose even a quarterly percent if we stop selling military weapons.
Not true. Even a person of faith can make the conscious choice of not providing any support in the form of votes to the politicians who keep striking down gun reform. It’s a case of “What one permits, one promotes.” If someone isn’t willing to do something, anything which will make an actual difference no matter how small that might be, to move the needle in the direction of ending the regularity of this violence, they are willing to let it happen. Too many people will take the “Well, thankfully it’s not happening in my area.” approach, which just lets… Read more »
It’s more about the people in positions of power and authority who CAN work toward change simply not bothering and offering platitudes instead. And then there are the people who don’t even WANT change because the guns apparently have more rights than the potential victims.
As a person of faith myself, what we can do is stop acting like hypocrites who have no agency at all in this. What the typical American “Christian” believes has absolutely nothing to do with what the Bible says, and they as a whole have been led into this strange philosophy where every single lesson that Jesus taught is neatly compartmentalized into Sunday morning and taught with asterisks and footnotes. These people make me feel embarrassed to even state my faith. You who support this, have no idea what the faith is that you pretend to be affiliated with. “Then… Read more »
And to any of you who’d reply back, “But what about what the rAdICaL LeFT is doing?!” Enough with the whataboutism. Make like Matthew 7 and take the log out of your own eye before you start criticizing other people for the specks in theirs.
Precisely so. Leave the whataboutisms, the cherry picking, and the compartmentalizing behind. Few things irritate me as much as cherry pickers who use that cherry picking to justify their bigotry and terrible treatment of others.
A faith and being faithful to it ties the faithful to some of the problems every faith has (just as every political party, and so on). Being a rabid atheist has issues too. Faith isn’t all the problem, but a fair number of Christians in the US wouldn’t be recognized by Christians in other countries – some churches and maybe some that deserve the name cult are part of the problem. What are the major reasons a society has violence and mass shootings? Insufficient mental health resources that are affordable, a society that venerates firearms and violence, corporations related to… Read more »
What video game would have you actually killing friends and not enemies from the ingame lore point of view?
Wait. Oh.
They’re talking about ‘mongus
Assasins Creed Unity (the multiplayer part)
where you are a litteral assasin playing online with your friends and your goal is to murder them.
Quake / arena shooters / old UT
Basically any game that has a ladder/leaderboard and is not my little pony/hello kitty online.
Methinks
Even as incompetent people as the traditional media wouldn’t describe Quake Arena and the like as “pretending to be an assassin”.
Maybe Spy in Team Fortress 2, but that’s still killing the enemy team. At least in amongus the imposter does actually pretends (or supposed to pretend) to be friends with everyone.
It doesn’t even really need to be a real game. In fact, probably was intended to not sound like any one particular game. This is probably like the “Immortal Thirst” storyline, in which it could literally be one of hundreds of games on the market, so there’s no reason to single out one.
I think you’re confusing the multiplayer of earlier AC games with what Unity had. In Unity, it’s only co-op with a friend, no trying to kill them. The previous ones where you try to kill other players they aren’t portrayed as your friend in universe.
They probably mean “friends” as in other players.
Not like they are putting much thought into it.
Also they are wrong about one other thing.
Many games are based on real historical events (battles and wars) or general way things worked in human history (f.ex. there are wars in games like Civilization).
So, games don’t cause violence.Violence causes video games. 😉
It doesn’t even have to be “ingame lore,” I can think of two MMOs where you can kill your friends in PvP.
The bully effect will cause people to not be your friend so they don’t get bullied, too. Als people will be prevented from seeking friendships because people will randomly join the bullying (disappointment / danger of more suffering)
This feels like the beginning of a new conflict between our dynamic duo and Elija (the super fast guy), since this was almost exactly his argument last time they met.
That’s pretty much what I figured too
Yeah, I suspect his first reuse of his powers will be in defense of his store or against Elija at the very least.
Is video game scape goating still a thing in your part of the world?
It was really big before like 2010 where I live, but then died down rapidly when gaming went from a thing kids and nerds did to something that everyone and their mom did.
Haven’t heard any video game scape goating in at least 10 years.
Of course it’s still a thing in the USA. Mass shootings are still a thing in the USA. And most politicians will blame anything and I mean anything to avoid addressing the real problem: the easy access to guns that were designed specifically to kill humans. If the shooter played violent video games, you bet your butt they’re gonna bring that up. It’s more common to go after the mental health of the shooter (while of course voting against any bill that might make access to mental health care easier and more affordable), along with the typical useless “thoughts and… Read more »
Isn’t that just on conservative media though? None of those are really considered trustworthy or credible
Tell that to the millions of people listening to conservative media, which are billion dollar businesses.
Just because people are dumb enough to believe it doesn’t make it true, people still think that republicans are good for the economy even though every economic recession that we’ve had in the last thirty or forty years has been caused by them and their stupid idea that if you give rich people more money that they will just share
If conservative media wasn’t considered trustworthy or credible, we wouldn’t have a felon in the white house now, would we? This is not the world of our fathers and grandfathers. We have corporations who have spent billions on understanding crowd psychology and how to subtly influence people to think and feel and choose one way or the other. Our reliance on the internet for media, and how it uses personalized algorithms to show people news articles, videos, clips, and memes that will resonate with us and drive up engagement, has made it so that people are extremely manipulatable, into thinking… Read more »
like the liberal mainstream media is trustworthy???
Liberal media isn’t the one being found repeatedly in studies to have more people ignorant of issues after watching it than if they watched no media at all, only conservative media has that distinction. I don’t think liberal media is completely trustworthy, but the distinction is pretty clear
The same liberal media that repeats hoaxes like the “Very fine people” BS? Spare us the righteous indignation.
He said very fine people on both sides, the problem is that one of the sides was a group of neonazis
Who he specifically denounced right before he said the “very fine people” part. The actual quote is something along the lines of “…and I’m not talking about the N@zis or white supremacists, because they should be condemned every time…” and so on.
He only said that after because he realized how bad it looks, it sounded like he was giving them a free pass and he kinda was since what the other side was protesting was taking down a statue dedicated to slavery
If you march alongside nazis, you are not a “very fine person”
Thanks for agreeing with Trump.
Maybe we can find a common ground? My mind is very open to the idea that both sides aren’t out for the best of their citizens. Sure I might have a preference to one side, but if I see how the lobby works I think the votes of people is too easily overruled. They give some tokens here and there along the party line, then make some decisions, legal or not, that suspiciously is in great advantage of someone powerful. My two cents? If you think that the politicians have the best intentions for you, you’ve got it wrong. There… Read more »
They’re considered credible to the people who watch them and that’s really all that matters. They’ll say it and then millions of people will believe it.
Again, doesn’t make the source credible, just the viewers ignorant
“Interesting” thing – the guns aren’t inherently the problem, but the people who wield them. It’s the whole “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” thing. I’m not saying it shouldn’t be harder to get a gun in the US – I think it absolutely should – but the real problem is all the fear mongering. Libs of TikTok once posted a map of American schools as “sites of Anti-American activity.” People like Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh are telling their listeners all the time that teachers are trans-ing their kids in schools. There’s a general anti-education rhetoric throughout the… Read more »
You know, some years ago I thought that what the US needs to prevent shootings and lower the level of gun violence is stricter gun control. But then I found out that in Switzerland the percentage of weaponry in the hands of civil population is not lower (and I think even higher) than in the US. And still we don’t hear about frequent shootings in that country. so yeah, it seems that the main problem is not in guns, but in heads. :-/ (I must say, I am not an American. European. Own a couple of guns, for sports mainly.… Read more »
Although the problem is partly in the heads, there is a reason guns shouldn’t be allowed for many reasons. In Switzerland and several other countries the guns have a whole other culture behind it. There is much less a self defence culture, and guns are thought of as dangerous things that should be handled with care. There’s emphasis in handling them correctly at all times, and little precedence to use them in defensive scenarios. In short, there is gun control. It just isn’t legislation. Another is the ease. Did you know that the most people in the USA dying from… Read more »
The “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” is a rubbish argument. What guns do is allow people to kill and damage over distance in quantity. A gun’s only function is to destroy, it has no other purpose. The UK, where I live, had a school gun massacre in 1996. It led to tighter gun legislation and we have not had a school gun massacre since. People still own guns (my friend has 8!) but they are not easily available over the counter for a couple of hundred pounds to anyone who passes a cursory check. Fear mongering is not… Read more »
‘Gargling old piss’ party. Same issue, different day. heaven help them if they are Made to swallow, not spit. Bullets X10 the cost and locked up tighter than legal marijuana or firing pins DNA coded. Easy solve.
That’s not just hyperbole, it’s an outright lie. Just take the Nashville shooter, transman that shot up a catholic school. We can do this all day bub.
It’s certainly not as loud as it used to be, but there are still some people consistently trying to link events like this to video games. It just tends to get quickly buried under all the OTHER scapegoating.
I feel like those voices might be a bit louder in a world that has actual video game themed vigilantes.
Still a thing in France, and I want to murder them for relaying that kind of fake news… Oh wait…
Only in the United States, less often now cause its not being secretly funded by the NRA. NRA used to sponsor groups who were anti-video game violence, like Jack Thompson and other “experts” and trot them out to the news networks. Since all the news outlets were scared to be sued by the NRA… they took the scrapes they offered to fill air time. Nowadays, gun manufacturers earn tonnes of money for licensing their trademarks/copyright on their guns to the big games like Call of Duty etc. and see games effecting weapon sales. They don’t want to bring attention to… Read more »
They literally just did this with Luigi Mangione in December. So yeah, it’s still a thing. (This is from the NYPOST, but many outlets ran with the same “news”)
It is ironic. The amount of violence and death in music, movies, series, and even just the news is easily comparable. In how many movies it is even glorified? How many are more realistic than video games?
Just imagine if they ran with other games in his library.”
“Suspected killer Luigi Mangione spent years training in 1 – vs – 100 death matches on remote island.”
“Suspected killer Luigi Mangione found to be millions of Bells in debt to Tanooki loan shark”
“Suspected killer Luigi Mangione found to have dated, married, and divorced twelve individuals in small valley town; refuses to comment on the dozens of children turned into doves.”
Luckily, that scapegoat is a blast from the past …. i hope ?
Games is already the update.
“Where is a police man
when you need one
to blame the color TV”
Well that’s not the direction I was expecting the story to go.
I remember the time before video games when playing D&D and listening to heavy metal music was the scapegoats for something like this.
Yeah, the title of this is making sense now get a feeling someone is gonna have issue with videogame-themed supers in the city.
Oh! So we get the return of this “anti-gaming” guy, whose name I don’t remember but have superspeed and brother killed by gamer?
Now would be the perfect time for Ethan to gamble with his power, put on a jesus outfit, and go fuck with the zealots. Full “mental middle-finger so hard it scratches the itch on your shoulder”. By death 8 he will have an off-shoot cult that would make Josef Seed jealous.
At this rate, I’m just hoping for the apocalypse. My mother’s side came from Germany’s ww2. I have no desire to have similar stories for my children. If conservatives want power so much they think playing gestapo is a good idea, trying to nominate a pope to shield their actions, taking basic rights from others… burn it to core so even prepper bunkers are vaporized. Turn this shitshow into a fireworks show that would make 4th of july ones feel limp.
😐
Amongus
Can’t believe no one has dropped this one in here yet.
Video games don’t cause violence. Lag does.
I find this storyline has a funny little irony here. On one hand, there’s what Lucas is saying in panel 2, which echoes my own frustration at how we (that is, American culture, sorry, rest of the world) just refuse to actually do anything to stop the violence; especially when the most obvious answer is gun control. On the other hand… well, “Vigilante superheroes hiding amongst the people, springing forth to stop crime,” really isn’t all that different from “The answer to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” And yeah, they could register… Read more »
To remember that Tim writes these comics WAYYY in advance, and it could coincide with a shooting…
I just…
In America, shootings are not hard to accidentally coincide with. Collegehumor joked about abc ceo needing to block airing “School Shooter Shooter”. Ask Australians what happened after their big shooting.