I think it was a perfectly fine way to distinguish between the current toxic controlling relationship and more severe outright manipulative and abusive toxicity which could easily be coming.
Having been in one that did that, I knew exactly what he they meant.
Killiak
22 days ago
I wonder how many people’s minds you just blew with that last sentence.
ok i was sure you were making some distastefull joke with that last one ….why the fk is it called that (its called koolzaad … or cabbageseed in my native tongue and i had never seen that one translated before)
Not going to lie, 45 year old with a Master’s degree and TIL. Wife will probably smack me upside the head, but I hate pickles and never really worried about their origin.
It opens a whole host of new questions though. Do cucumbers shrink a whole lot from pickling? Why aren’t mini-cucumbers called “pickled size”?
Pickled cucumbers are harvested before being fully ripened – that’s why they’re so small. They’re also a different subspecies, so they wouldn’t naturally grow as long as the salad cucumber would, but that’s nowhere close enough to the mini size.
You can pickle any vegetable, its just the cucumber has such a neutral natural flavor it picks up all its flavor from the pickling brine. Which means you can flavor them however you see fit by messing with the brine.
You can absolutely pickle onions, peppers (both bell and hot varieties), beets, turnips and so much more. You just have to be aware of the vegetables natural flavor and work with it. Pickling is one of the key ways we used to preserve food before we figured out how to make refrigerators and freezers
Nuh they aren’t…they do belong to the same family of plants though, same as pumpkins. More like they are close relatives. That taste nicely. …I am hungry now
I’ve known that for a long time. But I wonder now how cucumbers became ‘the pickle’. You can pickle darn near anything. Pickled onions, pickled eggs, pickled radishes. But colloquially, we don’t really call them ‘pickled cucumbers’. We just call them pickles.
Cause ‘merica. But actually because of the prevalence/popularity (specifically in America) of pickled cucumbers over other pickled items. Happens commonly with popular brands becoming synonymous with a specific item (frisbee, jacuzzi, band-aid).
Checking in, mind isn’t completely blown but uh, in my 30’s and TIL. Like the other guy, I just don’t care for pickles so I never put any thought into pickles…
In general, or a specific kind? There’s multiple types, from gherkins, to dill, to sweet, and others. Of Dill there’s burger pickles, and there’s also (to me) ‘normal’ pickles that come whole, in halves, or quartered ‘spears’. I prefer Claussen. They don’t have an overly bitter like the ones used on burgers. Also usually nice and crunchy, not soggy.
I wonder how many people know that Lucas is being inaccurate.
Pickles are often cucumbers. In the US, Pickles are assumed to be cucumbers.
But if you pickle some onions, and you pickle some green beans, and if you pickle some eggs, they are all pickles.
This isn’t an “All squares are rectangles” situation, but something that might require a Venn Diagram.
Why is there even such a distinction in English?
In my maternal language, one of them is a “raisin”, and the other is “raisin sec”, which means “dried raisin”.
And we also have “grappe de raisin”, which refers to the bunch of fruits that are attached together on the plant.
Sounds like another one of those situations where people don’t understand that cow is used as the common name but actually means its a female cattle that has had a calf.
English is a weird language, very much made up of words stolen or translated from other languages. My favourite example is loanword vs calque. A loanword is one taken from another language as is, and used to mean more or less the same thing, e.g. café (from French), A calque is a word translated from another language, e.g. flea market is translated from the French “marché aux puces” which means market with fleas. The best part is that loanword is a calque (from the german “Lehnwort”), and calque is a loanword. And that is one of the many reasons we… Read more »
It stems from the Norman conquest of Britain, the class structure created a separation of the common germanic words for the animal that everyone was familiar with and the French word when applied to the processed product:
e.g.
Cattle/Cow -> Beef (Bœuf)
Sheep -> Mutton (Mouton)
To a certain extent, even Chicken to “Poultry” (poulet)
I don’t know how common grapes were in that period, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it stemmed from a similar background.
Yeah, all they need to do is express their thoughts so Ethan can make his own judgement call. I do admit this can be a delicate subject though.
Maybe they need to engineer a situation where Scott gets to meet Nicole (so he can form his own opinion firsthand), and then *he* speak to Ethan? They’re not as close, but Scott also doesn’t risk coming across as a hypocrite.
Or at that point Lucas can say that both he and Scott have concerns (but, importantly, in a one-to-one conversation so it doesn’t risk seeming like they’re ganging up on Ethan).
Paula
22 days ago
I think Lucas is not being fair with Ethan. Yes, he is an idiot about many things but he also has some surprising emotional intelligence.
I'm a human blanket
22 days ago
Many years ago a large group of friends were at dinner and the subject of Dr. Pepper and the rumor that it is made from prune juice came up. I commented that they would be required to list it in the ingredients and it doesn’t say prune juice, prunes, or plums anywhere on the label. To which my friend’s new GF says, “Why would you care if it said plums?” Ummm because prunes are made from plums, you know, like how raisins are made from grapes. Her shocked reply was, “RAISINS ARE MADE FROM GRAPES?!!?” Their relationship didn’t last too… Read more »
Hoopy
22 days ago
In the real world, at least, sadly friends typically completely ignore advice from other friends when their emotions (and hormones) are involved. They tend to have blinders on that prevent them from seeing all of the red flags.
Sure, Scott and Lucas know that this is a disaster waiting to happen, but there is little they can say that will do more than strain the relationship Ethan has with them.
Fletcher
22 days ago
Is that Scott’s house? Marble floors, large modern art…. Is Scott Rich?
There are many types of pickles that come from cucumbers, not just gherkins. That’s more like a specific size category.
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Tales
21 days ago
In other news all fruits are in fact vegetables, because a vegetable is just an edible plant.
B@loo
21 days ago
Wait… WHAAAAAAAAAAT!? pickles ARE cucumbers…?
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Fartsy
21 days ago
… Wait, pickles ARE cucumbers ?
Chris
21 days ago
I wonder which super the blonde amazon is?
Crestlinger
21 days ago
‘if you want to talk about it. I’m here to listen. Until then good luck, my number, code word ‘gamestore’ if you need the wall torn off for an escape.’
Entercoven
20 days ago
Look, we can all agree that the relationship is at least a bit toxic, and we all assume it will get progressively worse. Valid assumption here. And Lucas in this post is right, despite things working out REALLY well in comparison to the potential downsides, if he keeps butting in, it will feel a bit hypocritical of him, but its coming from a place of care and concern.
If Ethan was only here doing a “Here for a short time not a long time” sort of dating… Maybe this wouldnt be the worst thing for him. Toxic as it is, he’s being given 200% levels of affection and care after a long dry spot. Could give him confidence for the next time, like jumping in the deep end of the pool to remember how to swim. Or drown him, like jumping into the deep end of the pool before remembering how to swim. Kinda par for the course for Ethan though.
Personally, I think he’s also freaking out a bit about this woman, and just doesn’t want to bother Lucas about it, as if Lucas will tell him its just nerves since its been so long. Totally the sort of thing Tim would put into his comic.
Unless
Unless this was early comic humor, then it’d start with the top panel being a date, middle panel having Ethan tell Lucas where the scary lady touched him (chest) on a bear, and ending with playing games on Xbox while a shadow of the woman stands outside the door for a potential future part 2 that may not happen.
Psybite
20 days ago
hey I feel picked on, as I didn’t realise pickles where cucumbers either, until only a few weeks ago (I’m 47). Admittedly I don’t really like cucumber and so pickles never appealed either, these strange green shrivelled things in vinegar.
In the UK the only thing you see as a child as having been pickled is mainly Onions at Christmas, which have a very strong flavour!
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Over under on Ethan finally getting laid? Or is the relationship going to get hypertoxic before that?
Given his comment about finally being able to be the little spoon… I think the over under on whether he will ever be the top would have longer odds
Amazon position it is then…
That you don’t realize it’s already toxic is deeply troubling.
That’s why I said hypertoxic, I don’t think anyone needs me to say “it is already toxic” or do you?
I didn’t think anyone needs to say “hyper”.
I think it was a perfectly fine way to distinguish between the current toxic controlling relationship and more severe outright manipulative and abusive toxicity which could easily be coming.
Having been in one that did that, I knew exactly what he they meant.
I wonder how many people’s minds you just blew with that last sentence.
Wait until he finds out that broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, cabbage and kale are all the same species.
And, I hate all of them equally! Kale is a disgusting weed, it should be left in the ground!
Oh, c’moooooooon. I’ll grant that hate on cabbages, but I’ll die on a hill defending my home made “Caldo Verde” (portuguese recipe, look it up)
Nah man, broccoli legit slaps, you just gotta steam it correctly
Steam? What are you, a neanderthal? It’s gotta be roasted.
Not only broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, cabbage and kale, but also mustard seed and rape seed.
You can make a whole salad including dressing just from that one plant.
ok i was sure you were making some distastefull joke with that last one ….why the fk is it called that (its called koolzaad … or cabbageseed in my native tongue and i had never seen that one translated before)
It comes from latin “rapa” which means turnip – another close relative of cabbage!
The English word is derived from German “Raps”.
Not going to lie, 45 year old with a Master’s degree and TIL. Wife will probably smack me upside the head, but I hate pickles and never really worried about their origin.
It opens a whole host of new questions though. Do cucumbers shrink a whole lot from pickling? Why aren’t mini-cucumbers called “pickled size”?
Pickled cucumbers are harvested before being fully ripened – that’s why they’re so small. They’re also a different subspecies, so they wouldn’t naturally grow as long as the salad cucumber would, but that’s nowhere close enough to the mini size.
You can pickle any cucumber…
You can Pickle almost anything. It’s mainly a method of preserving. Just so happens to make some things taste better in the process.
You can pickle any vegetable, its just the cucumber has such a neutral natural flavor it picks up all its flavor from the pickling brine. Which means you can flavor them however you see fit by messing with the brine.
You can absolutely pickle onions, peppers (both bell and hot varieties), beets, turnips and so much more. You just have to be aware of the vegetables natural flavor and work with it. Pickling is one of the key ways we used to preserve food before we figured out how to make refrigerators and freezers
Cucumbers are mostly water, so they shrink when you pickle them with salt and remove the water.
pickling cucumbers are a different species than the typical ones you get in the supermarket. There are many varieties.
Do you know what are cucumbers too? Melons
Nuh they aren’t…they do belong to the same family of plants though, same as pumpkins. More like they are close relatives. That taste nicely. …I am hungry now
In fact both are Cucumis, so are much much closer that cucumbers/melons and pumpkins. You could even hybridise both
I’ve known that for a long time. But I wonder now how cucumbers became ‘the pickle’. You can pickle darn near anything. Pickled onions, pickled eggs, pickled radishes. But colloquially, we don’t really call them ‘pickled cucumbers’. We just call them pickles.
Cause ‘merica. But actually because of the prevalence/popularity (specifically in America) of pickled cucumbers over other pickled items. Happens commonly with popular brands becoming synonymous with a specific item (frisbee, jacuzzi, band-aid).
Checking in, mind isn’t completely blown but uh, in my 30’s and TIL. Like the other guy, I just don’t care for pickles so I never put any thought into pickles…
In general, or a specific kind? There’s multiple types, from gherkins, to dill, to sweet, and others. Of Dill there’s burger pickles, and there’s also (to me) ‘normal’ pickles that come whole, in halves, or quartered ‘spears’. I prefer Claussen. They don’t have an overly bitter like the ones used on burgers. Also usually nice and crunchy, not soggy.
They’re all cucumbers, mate. Just pickled with different flavourings.
Never said they weren’t cucumbers. xD
I wonder how many people know that Lucas is being inaccurate.
Pickles are often cucumbers. In the US, Pickles are assumed to be cucumbers.
But if you pickle some onions, and you pickle some green beans, and if you pickle some eggs, they are all pickles.
This isn’t an “All squares are rectangles” situation, but something that might require a Venn Diagram.
Better yet: raisins are grapes.
Why is there even such a distinction in English?
In my maternal language, one of them is a “raisin”, and the other is “raisin sec”, which means “dried raisin”.
And we also have “grappe de raisin”, which refers to the bunch of fruits that are attached together on the plant.
Presumably it’s one of those stupid language things where we got the names from different sources.
Like beef vs cow.
Sounds like another one of those situations where people don’t understand that cow is used as the common name but actually means its a female cattle that has had a calf.
Not going to lie….that would save a lot more conversations with grown adults than I ever thought I’d need to have.
English is a weird language, very much made up of words stolen or translated from other languages. My favourite example is loanword vs calque. A loanword is one taken from another language as is, and used to mean more or less the same thing, e.g. café (from French), A calque is a word translated from another language, e.g. flea market is translated from the French “marché aux puces” which means market with fleas. The best part is that loanword is a calque (from the german “Lehnwort”), and calque is a loanword. And that is one of the many reasons we… Read more »
It stems from the Norman conquest of Britain, the class structure created a separation of the common germanic words for the animal that everyone was familiar with and the French word when applied to the processed product:
e.g.
Cattle/Cow -> Beef (Bœuf)
Sheep -> Mutton (Mouton)
To a certain extent, even Chicken to “Poultry” (poulet)
I don’t know how common grapes were in that period, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it stemmed from a similar background.
Prunes are plums.
Pickles are almost anything you pickle.
thats a low blow… I’m 50 and I only just in the last year or two found out that pickles are cucumbers..
I’ve never liked the damned things.. but i like cucumbers. so thats my defense.
So, things are a bit in a cucumber.
Lets hope Ethan doesn’t get too much extra information on cucumbers.
“So, how did you find out that your powers are still working?”
“My GF wanted to try pegging, but she got a little too intense on it, and ended up impaling me, which caused the respawn”
That would cause internal bleeding and it’ll take quite some time for Ethan to actually die. Like, enough to go to the hospital
Pickles are cucumbers?!
DON’T wait till he figures it out alone. Friends are there to earn you BEFORE you step on a landmine
Yeah, all they need to do is express their thoughts so Ethan can make his own judgement call. I do admit this can be a delicate subject though.
Maybe they need to engineer a situation where Scott gets to meet Nicole (so he can form his own opinion firsthand), and then *he* speak to Ethan? They’re not as close, but Scott also doesn’t risk coming across as a hypocrite.
Or at that point Lucas can say that both he and Scott have concerns (but, importantly, in a one-to-one conversation so it doesn’t risk seeming like they’re ganging up on Ethan).
I think Lucas is not being fair with Ethan. Yes, he is an idiot about many things but he also has some surprising emotional intelligence.
Many years ago a large group of friends were at dinner and the subject of Dr. Pepper and the rumor that it is made from prune juice came up. I commented that they would be required to list it in the ingredients and it doesn’t say prune juice, prunes, or plums anywhere on the label. To which my friend’s new GF says, “Why would you care if it said plums?” Ummm because prunes are made from plums, you know, like how raisins are made from grapes. Her shocked reply was, “RAISINS ARE MADE FROM GRAPES?!!?” Their relationship didn’t last too… Read more »
In the real world, at least, sadly friends typically completely ignore advice from other friends when their emotions (and hormones) are involved. They tend to have blinders on that prevent them from seeing all of the red flags.
Sure, Scott and Lucas know that this is a disaster waiting to happen, but there is little they can say that will do more than strain the relationship Ethan has with them.
Is that Scott’s house? Marble floors, large modern art…. Is Scott Rich?
Apartment, actually. I think he was either living there with Carly or she was going to move in after they got married.
Pickled *cucumbers* – or rather gherkins – are cucumbers.Other pickles, like pickled onions, are not
There are many types of pickles that come from cucumbers, not just gherkins. That’s more like a specific size category.
In other news all fruits are in fact vegetables, because a vegetable is just an edible plant.
Wait… WHAAAAAAAAAAT!? pickles ARE cucumbers…?
… Wait, pickles ARE cucumbers ?
I wonder which super the blonde amazon is?
‘if you want to talk about it. I’m here to listen. Until then good luck, my number, code word ‘gamestore’ if you need the wall torn off for an escape.’
Look, we can all agree that the relationship is at least a bit toxic, and we all assume it will get progressively worse. Valid assumption here. And Lucas in this post is right, despite things working out REALLY well in comparison to the potential downsides, if he keeps butting in, it will feel a bit hypocritical of him, but its coming from a place of care and concern.
If Ethan was only here doing a “Here for a short time not a long time” sort of dating… Maybe this wouldnt be the worst thing for him. Toxic as it is, he’s being given 200% levels of affection and care after a long dry spot. Could give him confidence for the next time, like jumping in the deep end of the pool to remember how to swim. Or drown him, like jumping into the deep end of the pool before remembering how to swim. Kinda par for the course for Ethan though.
Personally, I think he’s also freaking out a bit about this woman, and just doesn’t want to bother Lucas about it, as if Lucas will tell him its just nerves since its been so long. Totally the sort of thing Tim would put into his comic.
hey I feel picked on, as I didn’t realise pickles where cucumbers either, until only a few weeks ago (I’m 47). Admittedly I don’t really like cucumber and so pickles never appealed either, these strange green shrivelled things in vinegar.
In the UK the only thing you see as a child as having been pickled is mainly Onions at Christmas, which have a very strong flavour!
Pickles are not cucumbers