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Tipping Point, p12

May 10, 2024 by Tim


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JozMk.II
JozMk.II
15 days ago

Not good.

That anger and resolve on Zeke’s face, though, quite impressive and understandable I will say.

Tash
Tash
15 days ago

A question I’ve wondered for a long time but never asked…is Zeke pronounced Zeek or Zeekee?

Paradox
Paradox
15 days ago
Reply to  Tash

Technically their name is ZK, pronounced “zee kay” but Ethan had trouble with it and said Zeke (Prnounced as “zeek”) and ZK said this was acceptable

Tash
Tash
14 days ago
Reply to  Paradox

Thanks!

SkilledNub YT
SkilledNub YT
15 days ago

Rest in pieces, Scott

Taylor
Taylor
15 days ago

Don’t worry. Zeke’s just gonna break his legs.

Esc
Esc
15 days ago

Ethan sacrifices himself to save scott, showing zeke there’s still something he doesn’t understand about empathy and forgiveness.

GUNnibal
GUNnibal
15 days ago
Reply to  Esc

I can’t quite agree. Note that ZK didn’t rush at Scott personally but sent one of the minions instead (I’d say the easiest way to tell the minions apart from ZK is their number of “eyes”). To me this indicates a certain level of restraint. If ZK was overwhelmed by pure rage at the sight of Scott, I’d expect them to do the job personally, just for the satisfaction of it. Whether ZK wishes to kidnap and lock the guys up (ironic vengeance for keeping them locked up before) or something else – I can’t say. But it seems like… Read more »

Darkhorse
Darkhorse
15 days ago
Reply to  GUNnibal

To add to the ‘no killing Scott: If Zeke wants to ‘disable’ a danger here (Scott), they might even be smart enough to set their anger aside. Scott has legitimate reasons to fear Zeke outside of it being a murder bot. Even if Zeke is alive and not murdering anymore, companies, governments and (super) villains want to control/copy him for their own gains. If Zeke can set their anger aside, and thereby showing they are the better ‘person’, Scott might aid Zeke in protection instead of searching destruction. Killing or harming Scott would also set Ethan and Lucas squarely against… Read more »

Jack0r
Jack0r
15 days ago
Reply to  Darkhorse

Of all people it’s pretty safe to say that Scott is last on the list of possible allies for Zeke

TomB
TomB
12 days ago
Reply to  Darkhorse

An interesting possible future:

Ethan and Zeke become neutral and Scott isn’t dead. As a result, when the enemies that have wanting Zeke’s army succeed, Zeke could need their help (and he them’s) for the good of the world (and anyone in it of any construction).

Snark
Snark
13 days ago
Reply to  GUNnibal

And I would say “you’re thinking like a human” 🙂
I would expect that for ZK all those commandeered drones are natural appendages like fingers of your hand are for you. They don’t think about moving drones consciously – they just do it. Just grab with the closest one.

nb_gamer
nb_gamer
12 days ago
Reply to  Esc

they

foducool
foducool
15 days ago

“I’m gonna break your legs!”

Darkhorse
Darkhorse
15 days ago

How many will think Zeke is going to kill Scott, and that Ethan will sacrifice himself? And then everything will be resolved with a neat bow, as Zeke learns x and Ethan will respawn? Have people forgotten how the last arc ended, where in the climax Zeke opted to run instead of kill Scott? Sure Zeke can have changed their opinion, but they’ll have to explain that change of character first. Zeke was shown to be better by running instead of killing though. Not to mention it doesn’t solve Zeke’s problems at all. Ethan sacrificing (and respawning) doesn’t make the… Read more »

Ashi
Ashi
14 days ago
Reply to  Darkhorse

I interpreted it as “They were just heavily damaged and in a panic, so they ran.” Not a matter of Not a Murder both, just Self-preservation Takes Priority.

Darkhorse
Darkhorse
13 days ago
Reply to  Ashi

I would argue against that. Yes Zeke ran for self preservation, but not out of panic. Initially Zeke was afraid and angry, trying to kill Scott and anyone who got in his way would get hurt as well. Ethan got seriously hurt, and this prompted Zeke to stop, reconsidering their position. They remembered that dying hurts for Ethan every time, and the fears related to his death, or possible incapability of death, bridging the gap between Zeke’s own fear and pain. Zeke then saw Scott doing something on his phone. Zeke now had one of the best opportunities to slay… Read more »

Boof
Boof
13 days ago
Reply to  Darkhorse

ZK probably still assumes Scott can respawn. If Scott actually Can, I don’t see how that “sacrifice” would do much to influence ZK. We, the audience would see this as very heroic, but ZK would just see an example of what Scott volunteered to do nightly.

Creepyunicorn
Creepyunicorn
15 days ago

So, we gonna see Ethans powers evolved? 🙂

Jedi
Jedi
15 days ago
Reply to  Creepyunicorn

Like him being able to respawn others ? Doubt as it would somewhat kill the purpose of anything … as well whatever, please respawn me …. !

The Legacy
The Legacy
15 days ago
Reply to  Jedi

There would have to be limits, such as range from him, and familiarity. Would be a neat little ability! It’s also possible that he’s had it all along, but since there’s no one else who has died, he’s never been able to test this.

Robfather
Robfather
15 days ago

Interesting that Scott stopped.

He could have just run Zeke into the wall instead.

  1. Could be too many variables on what the other bots might do?
  2. Could be a self preservation?
  3. Could be that even after everything he’s said and done, “killing” Zeke would wrong?

Thinking of 1.0 Scott makes me lean towards 2, but I don’t like letting the bias of the old universe taint my thoughts on A+D.

Darkhorse
Darkhorse
15 days ago
Reply to  Robfather

Or Scott didn’t want to endanger his friend, who was clearly in the path of the car? Or maybe it is instinct, where most people have trouble actually committing to extreme acts of violence, like running over humanoid shapes with a car? Or it is part of Scott’s promise to help Ethan with Zeke, so instead of crushing the robot at the first opportunity, he tries to save Ethan instead? Or maybe because Scott is currently single minded in saving Ethan, in contrast to killing Zeke? It is his goal to save Ethan here, and in such scenarios it is… Read more »

Ben
Ben
15 days ago
Reply to  Robfather

Ethan was surrounded by the ZK droids, which meant Scott couldn’t run them down without also hitting Ethan. At best, he might have angled the car *just* right to clip a single one of them, but that kind of vehicle maneuvering in a tight ally is tricky, and would put Ethan at risk.

So he went for the fakeout, trying to get them all to jump back.

MusicManD
MusicManD
15 days ago
Reply to  Robfather

Invoking 1.0 Scott makes me think it’s actually a Scott-shaped mech driven by a penguin.

Ana
Ana
15 days ago

How does he drive the car without legs

The Legacy
The Legacy
15 days ago
Reply to  Ana

Same way other people without legs drive cars. It’s a vehicle modification, and yes, such modifications exist in real life.

Marvin
Marvin
15 days ago
Reply to  Ana

Why does this question does pop up so much?

Simply typing “how can a paraplegic drive a car” into google answers it in all possible detail? Is getting real information from the web a dieing skill?

Or are we at a point where people ony “know stuff” they’ve been fed by TikTok.

Sorry Ana, not especially ranting at you, but I see this trend everywhere. I can’t count the times I had to correct bullshit my adopted daughter got from TikTok…

robin
robin
15 days ago
Reply to  Marvin

just one more reason to ban tiktok

Tim Tucker
Tim Tucker
12 days ago
Reply to  Marvin

Perhaps the better question: for a comic that gets pretty deep into depicting how the characters use technology, when will we get a closer look at the specific adaptations that Scott is using? Unless I missed something in an earlier comic, the closest that we’ve seen so far has been from page #3 in this arc: There’s some type of large screen in the center console There’s nothing obvious mounted to the steering wheel itself Scott has been shown gripping the wheel one-handed with his right hand Scott’s left hand has been tucked away in a position that might suggest… Read more »

Darkhorse
Darkhorse
15 days ago
Reply to  Ana

It is a legitimate question if you’ve never been in contact with that particular world. There are several whole fields dedicated to adapting the world to the needs of the (disabled) individual. You can drive cars by hand, (nearly) blind people can ice skate at a high level, extremely short people can reach the top drawers in the kitchen, too fat people can sit in a wheelchair, and people with locked in syndrome can type novels with just their eyes. We adapt the world to people, not people to the world. If you give it some thought, many solutions become… Read more »

Jaysburn
Jaysburn
15 days ago
Reply to  Darkhorse

It is a legitimate question, but the issue is that it seems like the days of “try to research it/figure it out on your own before asking” are gone. Ana could have typed that question into a search engine and gotten an immediate answer.

Which… is fine, for the most part. Just kind of exhausting.

Dan
Dan
15 days ago
Reply to  Jaysburn

It is a legitimate question that popped in the past 11 pages of this comic, so it loses credibility as a good faith question as the comic progresses.

Unless: hello new reader, you might wanna catch up on this storyline from at least a few pages back, I swear it’s worth it!

Jaysburn
Jaysburn
15 days ago
Reply to  Dan

That was pedantic.

Timmeh
Timmeh
15 days ago
Reply to  Jaysburn

“you keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means…”

Jaysburn
Jaysburn
15 days ago
Reply to  Timmeh

Sure man.

Willess12
Willess12
14 days ago
Reply to  Jaysburn

I run into this all the time. I’ll find myself wondering something, or asking something, and then realize I’m at my computer, or I have my phone, and I can just look it up. Why do people do things like this? That’s a good question. Maybe we should look it up? Okay, joking aside, I think the answer is ironically sorta relevant to this arc. For me at least, even if logically it would be faster and easier to just google stuff, if possible, I prefer to get the answer from a real person. One human being sharing their knowledge… Read more »

Chaotixxs
Chaotixxs
14 days ago
Reply to  Willess12

Except if they’re the type of person who comments on the comic to ask a question (that they apparently haven’t wondered about for several pages) they probably read those comments

Steve
Steve
12 days ago
Reply to  Chaotixxs

I believe the percentage of people who engage with internet comments is actually usually quite small compared to general readership. I feel like I heard it was only ~3% once, sonewhere. It could be someone very young. I was also confused — as a very small child, maybe 5 or 6 (years before the internet) — how the wheelchair people were driving, after noticing the handicapped parking signs (that’s what they called them way back then). People have been getting mentally younger and dumber for decades, so while it’s annoying to see repeated, it’s not entirely surprising. Or they’re just… Read more »

Olivia
Olivia
14 days ago
Reply to  Willess12

I could go with your explanation the first … maybe 3 comics where Scott is driving. But if people keep seeing him drive, even if they don’t normally read comments, maybe they’d think their question would be asked and answered below. But why would they ask so far into the story where we’ve already seen Scott at the wheel multiple times?

Jaysburn
Jaysburn
14 days ago
Reply to  Willess12

That was a whole lot of text, but your point seems to be “people can’t research things that they don’t already know?”

You might want to mull that over a little more

Willess12
Willess12
14 days ago
Reply to  Jaysburn

Woah, wasn’t expecting so many replies to this comment. And yeah, it was a lot of text, partly ’cause I wrote it late at night and I tend to get rambly and write things as I think of them. Anyway, to reply to the responses: No, I’m not saying people can’t research things they don’t already know. I’m saying people can’t research things if they don’t know there’s something there to research. This might not have come across clearly, but this point applies to this circumstance, not every instance where someone asks a question they could just look up. To… Read more »

Ashi
Ashi
13 days ago
Reply to  Willess12

“If you know what you’re looking for, inquiry is unnecessary. But if you don’t know, how do you inquire?”

TomB
TomB
12 days ago
Reply to  Willess12

Not saying it is always true, but sometimes I want an opinion for someone that I may have listened to before or in part of the community I regularly engage with vs. just whatever a search engine spits out. It’s not like everything there isn’t bias in the search results and/or blatant inaccuracies. Maybe just asking someone within in a community might provide information that it might be better, because it might be hard to know how good your answer is from google. I found when I worked regularly as a software developer on big projects, I could look for… Read more »

James Kite
James Kite
15 days ago

Unless ZK knows Ethan may not have his powers, any sacrifice on Ethan’s part will only matter if Ethan doesn’t respawn.

Which would be an interesting path to pursue from ZK’s point of view as he comes to terms with the reality as he tries to save Ethan’s life and restoring him, thereby forcing Scott to reevaluate his view of ZK.

The Legacy
The Legacy
15 days ago
Reply to  James Kite

That would be a really compelling storyline. If it actually plays out that way, that would be really neat.

Jaysburn
Jaysburn
15 days ago
Reply to  James Kite

That’s the only way I can really see this playing out; Ethan getting a life threatening injury, and Scott divulging that Ethan may no longer be able to respawn, forcing them to work together to try to save Ethan and allowing Zeke to realize what Ethan’s friendship really means to them.

However Tim often and impressively takes the story in directions I don’t expect, so we’ll see; I’m excited to find out what happens!

magical_writer
magical_writer
15 days ago

I wonder if Scott has that cattle prod with him?

Stephen
Stephen
15 days ago

If Zeke hasn’t killed Eugene, I can’t see him killing Scott

I could see him beating or verbally tearing him half a dozen new ones, but killing him? No way

chargersfan
chargersfan
15 days ago
Reply to  Stephen

That’s different, though. Zeke said they still need Eugene. They probably don’t need Scott.

Last edited 15 days ago by chargersfan
Kaitensatsuma
Kaitensatsuma
15 days ago

Time for Mr. Bzzrt Bzzrt

Number51x
Number51x
14 days ago
Reply to  Kaitensatsuma

Ah, I already forgot he still had that on him!

Chris
Chris
15 days ago

Called it.