And the title of this occurence makes a lot more sense !
Crossroads
5 hours ago
Classic move right there.
Aeg
5 hours ago
I guess he figured Lucas actually had a really good reason. That being said, what bugs me about this is that IRL, any IT department has the ability to track searches done on that database via the credentials used to access them. Ben would know that, and “oops, someone must have accessed it when I wasn’t looking” isn’t an excuse in any environment that actually cares about enforcing that policy and actually makes the situation worse. That being said, the real world has also shown that police use this kind of access all the time and get away with it,… Read more »
you can get in as much if not more trouble if you have left sensitive data exposed. Heck more than few politicians have goten flak for their handling of confidental/secret documwnts. Now imagine it would have been just a regular grunt and not influential politician.
I agree with Aeg. Ben is kinda being “I cannot do it morally, but I can let you – if you can take that moral responsibility”. If he cared about not doing it and not being caught doing it – it wouldn’t matter if it’s him or Lucas using the laptop, all that matters is which account performed the action. And “physically it wasn’t me” just moves the misdeed from “misuse of (restricted access thing)” to “carelessness in usage of (restricted access thing)”, it doesn’t absolve from the misdeed. There’s a responsibility in not letting someone else use your account.… Read more »
For context, I think Ben will also be fine with whatever Lucas chooses to do. The “test” here is just a mental note of whether or not Lucas Does A Legally Bad here. I shouldn’t even call it a test. Happywyvern below is right, the social cues are there.
Given how emphatic Ben tends to be, he might just be doing the whole song and dance routine to let Lucas feel better about it, because Lucas would probably happily take the fall for ‘taking the advantage’ of Ben’s trust if an issue ever comes up and it would, in a world of espers and psychics, be strictly and technically true.
Quite sure this is more about Bens own moral system than any legal questions. He can’t justify with himself doing it but he can giving Lucas the means to do it himself.
Although this is possibly true. Things you think would be more secure; are not. The world is held mostly together by duct tape and string.
Last edited 1 hour ago by Rob
Benjamin
5 hours ago
Lucas! NO!
Marseyais13
5 hours ago
very smooth Ben !
Reminds me of Malcolm in the Middle, when Lois is asking the sergent for info to track down Reese, and he tells her he has all the info in the drawer of his desk but can’t reveal it, and it pisses him off so much he’ll stand and face the window for a few minutes ^^
AustynSN
5 hours ago
From the back and with his mask hanging off, Lucas looks a bit like Captain Marvel. (Original, AKA Billy Batson, AKA The boy with the power of SHAZAM)
huh, your comment must have been disliked by a marvel comics fan with sore buttocks, allow me to bring it ro balance, as all rhings should be
Jedi
5 hours ago
Either he wants to give him a choice or its another test, hard to tell … but i tend to it being the first one … and then, hard choice for Lucas …
Happywyvern
3 hours ago
Reading the comments here I feel im missing something,
He gives the speech about not being allowed to do it…
Opens his laptop, clearly pointing out that this laptop can easily find out what’s needed. Then he says he is going for a pee and pointing out its for 10 minutes. Im middle aged it doesn’t take me that long.
But a lot of people are saying its a test and he shouldn’t do it?
Am I just dense at reading social cues on comic books?
It’s more like that Ben is a good guy following the rules while also breaking them at the same time for Lucas (aka not using police data to tell Lucas directly, but “accidentally” leaving his personal laptop open for anyone to access), but that if Lucas were to go through with this proposal and anyone from the police notice that Ben’s account logged in to check on the Troll’s whereabouts and “something” happened with the Troll a couple days later after said login… there could be questions. And danger to Ben’s job due his integrity as a cop if people… Read more »
I think you are absolutely correct in your interpretation of what Ben is trying to do here. This reminds me of a story. I used to know a guy who was a school teacher, this is the story he told me. He was very careful about building and maintaining his reputation among the kids he was teaching (knowing that ruining said reputation would likely result in him failing to teach them anything afterwards). One day he gives the kids a written test and sits there watching them filling in the papers. Suddenly one of the kids drops a small note… Read more »
It’s a classic test to see where Lucas’s loyalties are and how willing he is to go against his morals and ideals. If he uses the laptop it will hurt Ben and open the door to Lucas forsaking himself and falling to evil. As the next step would be Lucas breaking into what ever facility is housing the troll to try and extract info from him in a way that most likely involves violence. Breaking countless laws in the process and since he used Ben’s laptop to get the info it means Ben will have to shoulder the blame and… Read more »
Austin Mills
3 hours ago
Okay, I didn’t like the mustache, but I’ve changed my mind. Lucas, marry this man.
Steve
2 hours ago
With our heroes’ luck, Lucas will go digging illegally (ex: unauthorized use of a computer system) while Ethan slips on a bunch of gummy bears and impales himself on an eggbeater, or something.
Blue Griffin
1 hour ago
I really think some people are over thinking this. I don’t think this is a test at all. Just a way to set up plausible deniability. Lucas gets the information. Ben stays unaware if he did or not. End of story.
naustghoul
1 hour ago
Not only does he love him, he trusts him. Yup, Lucas my man, you are done. There is no way that you can deny this guy anything anymore.
Ocramot
18 minutes ago
This is very nice of Ben, but I guess Lucas still would have to log in with Ben’s credentials, so any improper use would trace back to Ben anyway
Damion
5 minutes ago
It’s unreal how blown away I am by the strength of the writing paired with the simplicity of the art in this comic.
Just incredibly great.
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Don’t do it Lucas, you don’t roll that way…
And the title of this occurence makes a lot more sense !
Classic move right there.
I guess he figured Lucas actually had a really good reason. That being said, what bugs me about this is that IRL, any IT department has the ability to track searches done on that database via the credentials used to access them. Ben would know that, and “oops, someone must have accessed it when I wasn’t looking” isn’t an excuse in any environment that actually cares about enforcing that policy and actually makes the situation worse. That being said, the real world has also shown that police use this kind of access all the time and get away with it,… Read more »
“I didn’t do it”
Police lie detector AND super powered empath show he is telling the truth.
you can get in as much if not more trouble if you have left sensitive data exposed. Heck more than few politicians have goten flak for their handling of confidental/secret documwnts. Now imagine it would have been just a regular grunt and not influential politician.
I agree with Aeg. Ben is kinda being “I cannot do it morally, but I can let you – if you can take that moral responsibility”. If he cared about not doing it and not being caught doing it – it wouldn’t matter if it’s him or Lucas using the laptop, all that matters is which account performed the action. And “physically it wasn’t me” just moves the misdeed from “misuse of (restricted access thing)” to “carelessness in usage of (restricted access thing)”, it doesn’t absolve from the misdeed. There’s a responsibility in not letting someone else use your account.… Read more »
For context, I think Ben will also be fine with whatever Lucas chooses to do. The “test” here is just a mental note of whether or not Lucas Does A Legally Bad here. I shouldn’t even call it a test. Happywyvern below is right, the social cues are there.
Given how emphatic Ben tends to be, he might just be doing the whole song and dance routine to let Lucas feel better about it, because Lucas would probably happily take the fall for ‘taking the advantage’ of Ben’s trust if an issue ever comes up and it would, in a world of espers and psychics, be strictly and technically true.
Quite sure this is more about Bens own moral system than any legal questions. He can’t justify with himself doing it but he can giving Lucas the means to do it himself.
Although this is possibly true. Things you think would be more secure; are not. The world is held mostly together by duct tape and string.
Lucas! NO!
very smooth Ben !
Reminds me of Malcolm in the Middle, when Lois is asking the sergent for info to track down Reese, and he tells her he has all the info in the drawer of his desk but can’t reveal it, and it pisses him off so much he’ll stand and face the window for a few minutes ^^
From the back and with his mask hanging off, Lucas looks a bit like Captain Marvel. (Original, AKA Billy Batson, AKA The boy with the power of SHAZAM)
huh, your comment must have been disliked by a marvel comics fan with sore buttocks, allow me to bring it ro balance, as all rhings should be
Either he wants to give him a choice or its another test, hard to tell … but i tend to it being the first one … and then, hard choice for Lucas …
Reading the comments here I feel im missing something,
He gives the speech about not being allowed to do it…
Opens his laptop, clearly pointing out that this laptop can easily find out what’s needed. Then he says he is going for a pee and pointing out its for 10 minutes. Im middle aged it doesn’t take me that long.
But a lot of people are saying its a test and he shouldn’t do it?
Am I just dense at reading social cues on comic books?
It’s more like that Ben is a good guy following the rules while also breaking them at the same time for Lucas (aka not using police data to tell Lucas directly, but “accidentally” leaving his personal laptop open for anyone to access), but that if Lucas were to go through with this proposal and anyone from the police notice that Ben’s account logged in to check on the Troll’s whereabouts and “something” happened with the Troll a couple days later after said login… there could be questions. And danger to Ben’s job due his integrity as a cop if people… Read more »
I think you are absolutely correct in your interpretation of what Ben is trying to do here. This reminds me of a story. I used to know a guy who was a school teacher, this is the story he told me. He was very careful about building and maintaining his reputation among the kids he was teaching (knowing that ruining said reputation would likely result in him failing to teach them anything afterwards). One day he gives the kids a written test and sits there watching them filling in the papers. Suddenly one of the kids drops a small note… Read more »
It’s a classic test to see where Lucas’s loyalties are and how willing he is to go against his morals and ideals. If he uses the laptop it will hurt Ben and open the door to Lucas forsaking himself and falling to evil. As the next step would be Lucas breaking into what ever facility is housing the troll to try and extract info from him in a way that most likely involves violence. Breaking countless laws in the process and since he used Ben’s laptop to get the info it means Ben will have to shoulder the blame and… Read more »
Okay, I didn’t like the mustache, but I’ve changed my mind. Lucas, marry this man.
With our heroes’ luck, Lucas will go digging illegally (ex: unauthorized use of a computer system) while Ethan slips on a bunch of gummy bears and impales himself on an eggbeater, or something.
I really think some people are over thinking this. I don’t think this is a test at all. Just a way to set up plausible deniability. Lucas gets the information. Ben stays unaware if he did or not. End of story.
Not only does he love him, he trusts him. Yup, Lucas my man, you are done. There is no way that you can deny this guy anything anymore.
This is very nice of Ben, but I guess Lucas still would have to log in with Ben’s credentials, so any improper use would trace back to Ben anyway
It’s unreal how blown away I am by the strength of the writing paired with the simplicity of the art in this comic.
Just incredibly great.