Pretty easy for Ethan to die now being out of the box. Which might be notZeke’s plan for a chance at freedom as he probably could tell Ethan wasn’t lying.
Scott may be a genius at code, but there’s no guarantee he’d be able to solve the problem. Being able to tell that Ethan wasn’t lying doesn’t mean that he sees there’s a way out; only that Ethan BELIEVES there’s a way out.
Meanwhile, from the most uncharitable view, Zeke saw that Ethan was willing to dangle a friend as bait/bargaining chip to a murder-robot while trying to emotionally manipulate him, which is not only insulting but also puts his friend in danger. So there are legit reasons Zeke might feel this way.
Both are very much possible. I definitely agree about Scott though. He might not be able to do it but Ethan probably believes he can. The flip side to that is that notZeke knows he will die eventually and this might be his one best shot at gaining freedom from “The Master”, so might as well take it.
Of course Scott can do it! It might take him a few days, but he’ll crack it in the end 🙂
Ah. Right. 24 hour time limit… 😉
mandoschMUh
4 years ago
Well….I was thinking this was too easy to be true…but I’m excited how this will work out. I assume, the Zeke is coming around, eventually….maybe he’ll be death-switched and then reprogrammed by Scott…
Ethan respawning may be his easiest way to escape, and the robot gets to have a little fun making it happen. The smart thing to do would be to leave him in the box.
It seems as though they made it very difficult for him to kill himself with what he had on him inside the cage.
James
4 years ago
oooh… so close!
Bwauder
4 years ago
Side note on the twitter dadfood discussion ‘cos I don’t tweet:
Wait till they get a bit older and wiser, then they start asking for particular food types, but you can still win.
K: Dad can we have lasagna tonight?
D: Do you know how to make it?
K: No but i want…
D: (interrupting) You’d better learn.
Freelance
4 years ago
That’s the problem of immediate A.I: The don’t have about 10 million years or so of developing empathy humans have developed through their primate evolution. *Eyes Twitter/Tumbler* Shame so many people want to discard that these days.
Ethan might suddenly see and care about Zeke as a person… maybe. But he’s primarily interested in escape, even if it risks Zeke’s life. Human-like empathy is how Zeke saw through this manipulation.
Or Zeke realizes that the easiest way to smuggle Ethan out is to respawn him, and is going to have a little fun with that as well.
NiteZ
4 years ago
I mean with how Ethan is an immortal punching bag that can literally be killed over and over again (to what most of us assume indefinitely). If you have to satisfy the murderous urge to kill somebody in a horrifically, and comedic way without having the entire world trying to destroy your entire existence… well Ethan is your guy – it’s a bonus points that he’s capable of pissing you off to that point too.
foducool
4 years ago
but I don’t want to be nice, I WANT TO BE EVIL!!!
Anonymous bastard!
4 years ago
So, two solutions here:
– The robot finds humans disgusting because they loathe empathy
– The robot finds humans disgusting because they lie and they think Ethan is lying/trying to manipulate him
Which one do you think? Betting on the latter but not quite sure.
Zeke already dropped the line that he can detect lying in peoples voices based on the modulation, he could tell his master was lying. It seems more likely the first solution is the true one. I’d say there was a good chance he knows Ethan will keep his word even if he, say, kills him horribly right now. It’s kind of a a Goku/Frieza/Jiren situation for those who know what Im talking about.
Actually, I think I’m going to bet on neither of those. While the lack of empathy may make Ethan’s remark somewhat irksome for Zeke, I doubt it warrants a chokehold. And Zeke would definitely know that Ethan was speaking the truth – he already mentioned detecting lies of the weebmaster.
My bet is what really rubbed him the wrong way was Eathan assuming that Zeke was unable to free himself. The idea that a squishy human would be able to actually help him, a superior being, is probably rather annoying.
I doubt that I think he is being 100% factual that he hates his master and would betray him if it made sense for him, I think he is just angry at Ethan for thinking that he could help him at all
Eldest Gruff
4 years ago
Hm… possibilities.
A) Z believes E on both, knows he’s being monitored, and is freeing E while keeping up an act.
B) Z believes E on the first and disbelieves on the second, and is legit angry and doesn’t realize the opportunity he’s giving E.
C) Z disbelieves E on both and has the situation in control, and just realized that if he breaks all of E’s limbs he’s incapable of causing mortal damage to himself.
Its all fun and games until somebody gets their neck snapped………
Him.
4 years ago
> The Robot lets you out. That was easy!
Press OK to be punched in the beanbag.
Supe
4 years ago
What if he just detected someone coming- like the Master or the guys?
Dan
4 years ago
Was worried Zeke was going to get all soft on us, my bet is he just drags Ethan out like this because you know… repugnant meatbag. Tim just messing with us to keep us on our toes
Yep. Tim is doing the good old “yay he turned good. or did he? oh no he didnt! or did he? yay he actually did! or did he?etc.” trope for a bit. everyone knows Zeke will end up being Ethans friend in the end, because if Tim does anything else, his fanbase will riot. But having a bit of suspense beforehand has never hurt anybody. Tim already dropped lots of clues about how Zeke can tell if someone is truthful. Ethan is the type of person who wouldnt lie about helping Zeke. so the bot knows that Ethan is convinced… Read more »
I disagree. Tim could very, very easily turn Zeke into a major villain here, ten times more effective than Weeb, and with a lot more gray lines. The fanbase wants just more Zeke, and a complex relationship is far more engaging than just having a buddy robot.
I think Zeke will be less a pure villain and more an independent party with shifting allegiances.
Can’t see him going full super hero but maybe he’ll team up when a threat is big enough but outside of that he is looking after number one.
Willaby Warhammer
4 years ago
I don’t think notZeke can actually kill Ethan to let him respawn. Probably cameras in there which would show it and his killswitch would get flipped. However, he could possibly slip Ethan something to allow him to kill himself and claim he missed it in his scan…
Kaitensatsuma
4 years ago
Ah, here come the “Meatbag” stuff
ReyMonoArdilla
4 years ago
The murderous robot who’s expressed disdain for humans reacted like a psychopath? I’m shocked.
Kasaix
4 years ago
Yeah, I didn’t think it’d be that easy.
Twilight Faze
4 years ago
Kinda new Zeke wouldn’t go through with it. This is more of Ethan’s not thinking things through. How would they escape without the Master not using the kill switch BEFOREHAND? Plus Zeke already hates humanity like the Master hates machines (probably more so). He’s still Red Ring broken after all. As much as I’d love to see Zeke back with the good guys (but still a jackass to his human buddies), I don’t think we’re gonna see that any time soon, if at all.
Crestlinger
4 years ago
And in a play Nobody seems to be expecting: ‘Hey Ethan! How’s your Japanese?’
I mean he Just heard two commands. Whether or not they are keyed to that one particular voice or for anyone because creator is too arrogant/lazy to go further is the question.
Those were not “commands”, as such. The Weeb has a literal switch in his hands with a button on it each time he’s reprimanded notZeke. He’s just being even more of a weeb and putting on a show to sound cool.
Eric
4 years ago
ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Del Cox
4 years ago
I appreciate how this page was sized just right to hide the last panel completely below the bottom of my browser.
sean
4 years ago
He wants help so he kills Ethan, this makes one of the blips on Scott’s radar disappear the reappear. They know that the timing is the same as Ethan’s re-spawn delay.
Robert Gerber
4 years ago
Others have said it, and I’ll signal boost. Zeke is probably breaking Ethan out for self interest related reasons, using murder as a method. Zeke’s known issues (think: bugs) almost certainly include killing people Lord Neckbeard doesn’t want him to kill, making it much more believable that he killed Ethan for those reasons, and not in a blatant attempt to break free of Neckbeard the Great’s control.
Dodgy
4 years ago
What if… he knows the weeb is listening in? This way if he frees Ethan by killing him, the weeb won’t know it was intentional.
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Pretty easy for Ethan to die now being out of the box. Which might be notZeke’s plan for a chance at freedom as he probably could tell Ethan wasn’t lying.
Scott may be a genius at code, but there’s no guarantee he’d be able to solve the problem. Being able to tell that Ethan wasn’t lying doesn’t mean that he sees there’s a way out; only that Ethan BELIEVES there’s a way out.
Meanwhile, from the most uncharitable view, Zeke saw that Ethan was willing to dangle a friend as bait/bargaining chip to a murder-robot while trying to emotionally manipulate him, which is not only insulting but also puts his friend in danger. So there are legit reasons Zeke might feel this way.
Both are very much possible. I definitely agree about Scott though. He might not be able to do it but Ethan probably believes he can. The flip side to that is that notZeke knows he will die eventually and this might be his one best shot at gaining freedom from “The Master”, so might as well take it.
Of course Scott can do it! It might take him a few days, but he’ll crack it in the end 🙂
Ah. Right. 24 hour time limit… 😉
Well….I was thinking this was too easy to be true…but I’m excited how this will work out. I assume, the Zeke is coming around, eventually….maybe he’ll be death-switched and then reprogrammed by Scott…
Ethan respawning may be his easiest way to escape, and the robot gets to have a little fun making it happen. The smart thing to do would be to leave him in the box.
Ethan could respawn still inside the cage, though.
It seems as though they made it very difficult for him to kill himself with what he had on him inside the cage.
oooh… so close!
Side note on the twitter dadfood discussion ‘cos I don’t tweet:
Wait till they get a bit older and wiser, then they start asking for particular food types, but you can still win.
K: Dad can we have lasagna tonight?
D: Do you know how to make it?
K: No but i want…
D: (interrupting) You’d better learn.
That’s the problem of immediate A.I: The don’t have about 10 million years or so of developing empathy humans have developed through their primate evolution. *Eyes Twitter/Tumbler* Shame so many people want to discard that these days.
Ethan might suddenly see and care about Zeke as a person… maybe. But he’s primarily interested in escape, even if it risks Zeke’s life. Human-like empathy is how Zeke saw through this manipulation.
Or maybe he is trying to do both, since that sounds like a real paragon option. The game is real with this one 🙂
Or Zeke realizes that the easiest way to smuggle Ethan out is to respawn him, and is going to have a little fun with that as well.
I mean with how Ethan is an immortal punching bag that can literally be killed over and over again (to what most of us assume indefinitely). If you have to satisfy the murderous urge to kill somebody in a horrifically, and comedic way without having the entire world trying to destroy your entire existence… well Ethan is your guy – it’s a bonus points that he’s capable of pissing you off to that point too.
but I don’t want to be nice, I WANT TO BE EVIL!!!
So, two solutions here:
– The robot finds humans disgusting because they loathe empathy
– The robot finds humans disgusting because they lie and they think Ethan is lying/trying to manipulate him
Which one do you think? Betting on the latter but not quite sure.
Zeke already dropped the line that he can detect lying in peoples voices based on the modulation, he could tell his master was lying. It seems more likely the first solution is the true one. I’d say there was a good chance he knows Ethan will keep his word even if he, say, kills him horribly right now. It’s kind of a a Goku/Frieza/Jiren situation for those who know what Im talking about.
The enemy of my enemy…
29. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less.
https://schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries
Actually, I think I’m going to bet on neither of those. While the lack of empathy may make Ethan’s remark somewhat irksome for Zeke, I doubt it warrants a chokehold. And Zeke would definitely know that Ethan was speaking the truth – he already mentioned detecting lies of the weebmaster.
My bet is what really rubbed him the wrong way was Eathan assuming that Zeke was unable to free himself. The idea that a squishy human would be able to actually help him, a superior being, is probably rather annoying.
The first would be more consistent with the character of the original Zeke.
Honestly, my first thought he was that he finds them repulsive for assuming that XBot would so readily turn traitor
I doubt that I think he is being 100% factual that he hates his master and would betray him if it made sense for him, I think he is just angry at Ethan for thinking that he could help him at all
Hm… possibilities.
A) Z believes E on both, knows he’s being monitored, and is freeing E while keeping up an act.
B) Z believes E on the first and disbelieves on the second, and is legit angry and doesn’t realize the opportunity he’s giving E.
C) Z disbelieves E on both and has the situation in control, and just realized that if he breaks all of E’s limbs he’s incapable of causing mortal damage to himself.
I’m partial to A, but I wouldn’t necessarily count on it being the case.
You’re killing him? Exactly what you SHOULDN’T do?
Well he is injurying him and “playing with his food” to quote from earlier.
Its all fun and games until somebody gets their neck snapped………
> The Robot lets you out. That was easy!
Press OK to be punched in the beanbag.
What if he just detected someone coming- like the Master or the guys?
Was worried Zeke was going to get all soft on us, my bet is he just drags Ethan out like this because you know… repugnant meatbag. Tim just messing with us to keep us on our toes
Yep. Tim is doing the good old “yay he turned good. or did he? oh no he didnt! or did he? yay he actually did! or did he?etc.” trope for a bit. everyone knows Zeke will end up being Ethans friend in the end, because if Tim does anything else, his fanbase will riot. But having a bit of suspense beforehand has never hurt anybody. Tim already dropped lots of clues about how Zeke can tell if someone is truthful. Ethan is the type of person who wouldnt lie about helping Zeke. so the bot knows that Ethan is convinced… Read more »
I disagree. Tim could very, very easily turn Zeke into a major villain here, ten times more effective than Weeb, and with a lot more gray lines. The fanbase wants just more Zeke, and a complex relationship is far more engaging than just having a buddy robot.
I think Zeke will be less a pure villain and more an independent party with shifting allegiances.
Can’t see him going full super hero but maybe he’ll team up when a threat is big enough but outside of that he is looking after number one.
I don’t think notZeke can actually kill Ethan to let him respawn. Probably cameras in there which would show it and his killswitch would get flipped. However, he could possibly slip Ethan something to allow him to kill himself and claim he missed it in his scan…
Ah, here come the “Meatbag” stuff
The murderous robot who’s expressed disdain for humans reacted like a psychopath? I’m shocked.
Yeah, I didn’t think it’d be that easy.
Kinda new Zeke wouldn’t go through with it. This is more of Ethan’s not thinking things through. How would they escape without the Master not using the kill switch BEFOREHAND? Plus Zeke already hates humanity like the Master hates machines (probably more so). He’s still Red Ring broken after all. As much as I’d love to see Zeke back with the good guys (but still a jackass to his human buddies), I don’t think we’re gonna see that any time soon, if at all.
And in a play Nobody seems to be expecting: ‘Hey Ethan! How’s your Japanese?’
I mean he Just heard two commands. Whether or not they are keyed to that one particular voice or for anyone because creator is too arrogant/lazy to go further is the question.
Those were not “commands”, as such. The Weeb has a literal switch in his hands with a button on it each time he’s reprimanded notZeke. He’s just being even more of a weeb and putting on a show to sound cool.
ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I appreciate how this page was sized just right to hide the last panel completely below the bottom of my browser.
He wants help so he kills Ethan, this makes one of the blips on Scott’s radar disappear the reappear. They know that the timing is the same as Ethan’s re-spawn delay.
Others have said it, and I’ll signal boost. Zeke is probably breaking Ethan out for self interest related reasons, using murder as a method. Zeke’s known issues (think: bugs) almost certainly include killing people Lord Neckbeard doesn’t want him to kill, making it much more believable that he killed Ethan for those reasons, and not in a blatant attempt to break free of Neckbeard the Great’s control.
What if… he knows the weeb is listening in? This way if he frees Ethan by killing him, the weeb won’t know it was intentional.