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Bad Blood, p16

October 31, 2022 by Tim


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Bogdan
Bogdan
1 month ago

And sh.t hit the fan

Urazz
Urazz
29 days ago
Reply to  Bogdan

No, I think that’s mostly Ethan’s and the thug’s blood.

Jere
Jere
1 month ago

This really is the “Ethan can’t even finish a single sentence before someone shoots him” arc, isn’t it?

The Legacy
The Legacy
29 days ago
Reply to  Jere

And I love it. 😂

Gonfrask
Gonfrask
1 month ago

Is not so hard gymnastic…but now that he sees Ethan continuosly respawn…what is he going to do? Trying very hard to kill him or just leaving for imposible and going home…after all,the Devil Suns are dead

Lily
Lily
1 month ago
Reply to  Gonfrask

I don’t think he really has a problem with Ethan. So if he is able to kill the bad guys, I don’t think he would bother Ethan.

Guest
Guest
1 month ago
Reply to  Gonfrask

He can probably conclude that punishment was delivered. There is a law in many countries that if the criminal survives the execution somehow, the crime is paid for and the execution is never repeated.

CTOWNS
CTOWNS
1 month ago
Reply to  Guest

Seems to be the same kind of law this man takes issue with, though

Cragfast
Cragfast
29 days ago
Reply to  Guest

There is a law in many countries that if the criminal survives the execution somehow, the crime is paid for and the execution is never repeated.

Bollocks.

Pulse
Pulse
29 days ago
Reply to  Cragfast

there was an experiment that had a decent chance of working that would allow resurrection. the court refused to allow a death row inmate to be used for that exact reason, you cant hold someone once theyve paid the sentence even if its death.

vaisravana
vaisravana
29 days ago
Reply to  Cragfast

I think they confuse it with the principle that you can not be punished for the same crime twice, which in one form or another does exist in many places, for obvious reasons.

Cain
Cain
29 days ago
Reply to  Guest

That’s why most official executions are worded like “The condemned shall be X until dead”. X being Hung from the neck, Shot, Electrocuted, etc. If the State wants you dead, they will make sure of it.

Phaet
Phaet
1 month ago

So if Ethan respawns, will he be punished for the same ‘crime’ again?

Cheez
Cheez
1 month ago
Reply to  Phaet

The mental gymnastics to get to this being a whole new crime of continuing to aid them might take him a few moments longer.

NobodyHadToSayIt
NobodyHadToSayIt
1 month ago
Reply to  Phaet

Huh. If you receive a death sentence and you die, must you remain dead? Kinda fun to think about.

wilddeath
wilddeath
1 month ago

I know of at least two instances. The first was a man who was put in the electric chair. This was in the 1950s. Something went wrong and the jolts he got weren’t enough to kill him. The horrible truth is, they took him back to his cell, where he received medical attention, had electricians work on the problem until it was diagnosed and repaired, then brought the prisoner back to the chair, strapped him in and ran the juice through him again. This time did the trick. He died. In the account I read, the prisoner was quite hysterical… Read more »

Timmeh
Timmeh
29 days ago
Reply to  wilddeath

That is because we cannot take our own life. Only the state or God (supposedly the same thing for some thinkers) can decide when we die. How DARE those criminals take their own lives into their own hands??

PhobosRising
PhobosRising
1 month ago

Technically, payment was given. There is nothing on the books for someone who can die and then call a cab afterwards.

GUNnibal
GUNnibal
1 month ago

Well, this ends our short “philosophical debate on the nature of crime and punishment” break, now back to your regularly scheduled “murder-death-kill”.

Long Johnson
Long Johnson
1 month ago

I’m impressed that I can tell you used an Sig 551 for the rifle reference (and a pretty decent M249). You even got the rifle grenade gas bulge with the seal clip ring as a noticeable detail. Nice job, lots of artists would just lazily mash out some sort of generic tactigun.

Bakhtosh
Bakhtosh
1 month ago
Reply to  Tim

Translation: You draw gud. 😀

HonoredMule
HonoredMule
1 month ago
Reply to  Tim

Kinda seems like both the right thing to do and the easier option, compared to the effort of inventing visual weapon details and hopefully not introducing some immersion-breaking incoherency in actual weapon mechanics.

Last edited 1 month ago by HonoredMule
Dodgy
Dodgy
1 month ago

This guy’s brain works like a flowchart where it doesn’t matter where you start or which ever route you take, it always leads to a conclusion that reads “RIP & TEAR” (which may or may not be two separate outcomes to the same effect)…

Oh and it just hit me… Deathblood goes R&T on Ethan, Zeke sees this, goes R&T on Deathblood which results in him/her/it/they/them being a wanted criminal or “Hero killer” for defending Ethan. Amiclose?

Smol Bear
Smol Bear
1 month ago
Reply to  Dodgy

ZK has stated pronouns of they/them. There’s really no need for the whole parade of pronouns here

Also as a general rule, if you don’t know someone’s pronouns just stick to they/them until you do know

PhobosRising
PhobosRising
1 month ago
Reply to  Smol Bear

Bad policy there. Just use what would be a default unless someone asks for a difference. Most don’t care. If they correct you, they intend to spend enough time around you to matter. Otherwise, it won’t. I don’t correct randos who butcher my last name, similar principle.

Zoey
Zoey
29 days ago
Reply to  PhobosRising

Your last name as an example isn’t applicable here as I don’t know of anyone who would argue that it isn’t your last name. They’ll probably get it wrong and if they’re inconsiderate they won’t try to get it right-but people will readily argue with a Trans person that their gender and pronouns are incorrect and ignore what is asked.

I promise you, using they until you know better is a much kinder approach than misgendering someone who is too scared to correct you.

Timmeh
Timmeh
29 days ago
Reply to  Zoey

Funny enough, my 8th grade science teacher crossed out my last name on an assignment and wrote in what HE thought my name was. But that is because my last name is a doozy and that guy was an idiot.

But your point still stands.

Smol Bear
Smol Bear
28 days ago
Reply to  PhobosRising

Please don’t tell me that people don’t care. I’m trans. Someone gets my pronouns wrong, even a rando, it hurts. And I mean HURTS. Like physical hurt.

Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean it’s not harmful

Zoey
Zoey
29 days ago
Reply to  Smol Bear

This is the way.

Aurican
Aurican
29 days ago
Reply to  Smol Bear

ZK has stated pronouns of they/them. Dodgy has stated repeated homophobic and transphobic comments. You’re not going to make Dodgy suddenly become a decent human being.

Timmeh
Timmeh
29 days ago
Reply to  Aurican

THANK YOU.

Somebody else notices! I always have felt like I was alone.

Smol Bear
Smol Bear
28 days ago
Reply to  Aurican

I’ve not interacted much before I wasn’t aware they were a phobe, just figured they were uneducated

7eggert
7eggert
28 days ago
Reply to  Dodgy

You can tell by the number of pages yet to be painted.

Verdiekus
Verdiekus
1 month ago

This is going to be fun, can’t wait to see Ethan go toe to toe with another “Hero”. Is deathblood smart enough to know him out, or will he keep trying to kill him?

anonymouse
anonymouse
1 month ago

kiss your ammo (and probably all your grenades) goodbye deathblood. you just picked the one target you wont be killing as easily as you think. (somewhere a ammo shop owner just heard the sound “CHA-CHING!” the moment deathblood made this poor choice in judgement)

M37h3w3
M37h3w3
1 month ago

I like the look away in Panel 2. That touch of remorse that makes you wonder what’s going on in there.

Logan
Logan
1 month ago
Reply to  M37h3w3

I don’t think that was remorse. Just a moments worth of contemplation. Or one of those “why’d I have to find an uber goody two shoes here… ‘alright, your funeral!’ ” kinda thing.

Last edited 1 month ago by Logan
Casra
Casra
1 month ago

When you try to use DC Hero logic, against a Punisher style hero, you’re in the wrong and are gonna lose. My wife is a HUGE Frank Castle fan, old school not the new incarnation, and well she’s swayed me to that particular POV and Ethan is irritatingly in the wrong here.

leduk
leduk
1 month ago
Reply to  Casra

ethan is 100% right. Death penalty by itself is allready stupid, but murder without trial is even stupidest. That vigilante bullshit should stay in fiction.

But it is
But it is
1 month ago
Reply to  leduk

But it’s fiction, isn’t it?

leduk
leduk
1 month ago
Reply to  But it is

some ppl sadly think it may work in real life.

Timmeh
Timmeh
29 days ago
Reply to  But it is

With how many cops kill civilians, it isn’t fiction anymore.

Casra
Casra
29 days ago
Reply to  leduk

Yes, how many villains escape and kill again? Yeah in comics happens all the time. Batman is the greatest serial killer in Gotham with the amount of blood on his hands. We’ll agree to disagree on the DP, I’m from Texas and I think it’s underused.

David K.
David K.
29 days ago
Reply to  Casra

Agree to disagree? No, the death penalty is barbaric. It’s not justifiable ESPECIALLY given that we know innocent people have been put to death by it.
You’re from Texas you say? You know what’s FAR more likely to kill you than an escaped criminal? Random civilian with a gun. If you’re worried about people dying that’s where your focus should be.
Meanwhile citing Batman, a completely fictional world where people with LITERAL super powers exist is a terrible way to make an argument about how the real world should work.

Casra
Casra
29 days ago
Reply to  David K.

Science is better, justice is better playing off of 30 year old cases where justice was disserved doesn’t help today. Letting a murderer see another day while their victims are in the ground? Can’t support that. I do believe there needs to be the highest of standards but once found guilty…

That being said, let’s be real here, if Ethan didn’t have super powers he would be dead, ergo these are cold blooded killers. Proven guilt, let the man take them out.

7eggert
7eggert
28 days ago
Reply to  Casra

Maybe the victim was a murderer? We don’t know so killing them would be the right thing to do, would ‘nt it?

Rolan7
Rolan7
28 days ago
Reply to  Casra

Deathblood has no idea that they tried to kill Ethan. His justification is that they have warrants for arrest, and that he doesn’t trust the system to capture them… so the “only solution” is murder.

vaisravana
vaisravana
29 days ago
Reply to  Casra

Tbh, I feel even if you apply DC comic logic your argument kinda falls apart there. Yes, bats could kill the criminals and prevent further crimes, as such, in a way there def is causality. But causality alone is not enough to make you an accomplice in a crime, else parents would be responsible for the crimes of their children merely by giving birth to them. You need something more than just basic causality. Batman doesn’t give the criminals the means to pull their heists, he doesn’t free them from prison, he doesn’t encourage them or give them ideas. You… Read more »

Last edited 29 days ago by vaisravana
Casra
Casra
29 days ago
Reply to  vaisravana

Here’s the thing, I can excuse once, but how many times has the Joker for example escaped Arkham and how many dead?
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Joker%27s_Body_Count

How many times has Batman refused to stop the Joker? It isn’t like he’d be taking out an innocent man here.

vaisravana
vaisravana
28 days ago
Reply to  Casra

Yeah but still, everything I said above still applies.
He has no obligation to go out and hunt/stop any criminals in the first place.
He just does it because he is kinda crazy and damaged.
It’s like watching a guy run into a burning house saving 10 people, then being upset 10 more inside burned.

\o/

GeorgeV
GeorgeV
29 days ago
Reply to  Casra

I can understand seeing ‘kill the criminals’ as a good solution (not necessarily agreeing, but I can see the logic at least), but calling anyone a (serial) killer merely for not killing criminals is more than a few steps off the deep end.

Even if the criminal(s) actually need(s) to die, such a thing should still be the responsibility of the state/judicial system. Seeing killing as a mandatory duty of citizens is ludicrous.

David K.
David K.
1 month ago
Reply to  Casra

No, Ethan is not wrong.
Having a single individual able to legally murder people just because that one person decides it? That’s a bad idea and there is a reason no sane person or country allows it.

Duke
Duke
1 month ago
Reply to  Casra

When this guy busted in like the Cool-Aid man and sentenced the lot to death for the crime of assault I laughed. Feels like their stated crimes were kept light in an effort make Death Blood’s actions even seem even rasher than that of Punisher.

Last edited 1 month ago by Duke
Reso
Reso
1 month ago
Reply to  Duke

I mean, I don’t think assault isn’t the crime Shooty McShootyFace is here to punish. He mentioned the gang’s drug running and other assorted crimes before Ethan stepped in.

Not that I trust Shooty to reasonably define capital crimes…

JusticeIsBlindandDumb
JusticeIsBlindandDumb
29 days ago
Reply to  Reso

Does it occur to anyone how stupid Ethan is being here? The PURPOSE of a trial and justice system is to ensure someone isn’t wrongfully convicted of a crime they DIDN’T commit. Ethan has literally watched and listened to them discussing the drug operation here, and all 3 of them have literally murdered him NUMEROUS times. The only reason they haven’t succeeded in keeping him murdered is that he can’t STAY dead. Their guilt is not in question. The fact that they are willing to commit (in essence) mass murder, is clear. (They literally killed him over and over and… Read more »

7eggert
7eggert
28 days ago
Reply to  Duke

Punisher once killed for littering

WereCatf
WereCatf
1 month ago

If you stop and think about it, Mr. Overkill is a fricking TERRIFYING guy: the M249 SAW weighs about 10kg, has a 100RPM sustained fire rate and this guy not only wields it single-handedly, but apparently manages to keep his aim on-point despite the massive amount of recoil! And it’s not one weapon, but two weapons, and it’s not just his arms that have to be strong, but practically every major muscle has to be involved in keeping him steady on his feet — to do that, he must be able to lift entire cars in air without breaking a… Read more »

Esc
Esc
1 month ago
Reply to  WereCatf

Weight helps with the recoil but yeah. This dude is jacked like Jesse Ventura in predator carrying a mini gun.

Sasquatch
Sasquatch
1 month ago
Reply to  WereCatf

The problems going to come from trying to do a one handed SAW reload. No thanks.

Vedrit
Vedrit
1 month ago
Reply to  Sasquatch

It’s faster to draw your pistol than to reload

Long Johnson
Long Johnson
29 days ago
Reply to  WereCatf

He’s got some crazy muscle, but honestly, the SAW isn’t that bad. It has basically zero recoil, and when adrenaline is pumping and you’re bounding, you can 100% just rip it off the shoulder. I’ve done it a few times.

Doom
Doom
1 month ago

So anyone still believe that he’s not just another serial killer now?

7eggert
7eggert
28 days ago
Reply to  Doom

Soon he’ll be a serial Ethan killer.

McDworker
McDworker
1 month ago

Imagine if Ethan was a cop trying to tell him not to kill those three. Would Deathblood murder a police officer doing the same thing or are vigilantes afforded less protections so he feels he can murder them to? Either way it doesn’t seem to pan out when you look at it.

Last edited 1 month ago by McDworker
anonymouse
anonymouse
1 month ago
Reply to  McDworker

i think vigilantes would be considered as having less protections than official law enforcement officers. because it would be so easy for someone with powers to go from good, to bad. or bad to good. happens in the comics all the time! look at venom! from spidermans worst nightmare, to protector of the homeless and poor, to outright hero. look at deadpool. the merc with a mouth will do almost any job for the right amount of cash and the right reasons, and sometimes it ends up putting him against big name heroes. i dont think deathblood would murder a… Read more »

ElEriko
ElEriko
1 month ago
Reply to  anonymouse

I think in Tim’s comic universe there are government-licensed heroes like Captain prime who are basically an organ of law enforcement. She probably takes orders from higher government agencies and can in turn give orders to police officers. Those heroes will likely enjoy the same protection as police. The other heroes (like Ethan and also Deathblood) are treated as “vigilantes” who only have some basic protection from the vigilante act. I suppose they have less protection than normal citizens because they willingly accept the risk. Deahblood would be reluctant to act against police officers (and official super-heroes); not because he… Read more »

Oyee
Oyee
1 month ago

“Hah! Caught all the bullets…” *respawn blip*

Paula
Paula
1 month ago

So, accesories of murder are also punished with death?

leduk
leduk
1 month ago
Reply to  Paula

everything is punished by death in the head of some crazy ass authoritarian vigilantes tbh

Nightdagger
Nightdagger
29 days ago
Reply to  Paula

This seems like the kind of “hero” where jaywalking in front of him could potentially justify a summary execution, just because “the law says I can so I will”.

Paula
Paula
28 days ago
Reply to  Nightdagger

Yes, I agree. I only highlighted it because I thought it was interesting.

Rolan7
Rolan7
28 days ago
Reply to  Paula

Accessories of *assault*, even – he doesn’t even know they’re murderers! Just that they have warrants for violent crime.

Bulk up
Bulk up
1 month ago

He was not wrong calling him monolog cause all he seems to do is talk but when s*it hits the fan Ethan is quite useless as a hero

leduk
leduk
1 month ago

what to expect from a cold blood mass murderer? it was obvious. Ethan was right since the beginning.

ricers
ricers
1 month ago

Pretty fun that Ethan’s powers allows him to be as “naive” as he wants on this (and other) subjects.

Greevar
Greevar
1 month ago

Yeah, that went pretty much the way I was expecting.

Ben
Ben
1 month ago

What would be interesting here is if this is how we found out that Ethan has a daily respawn limit. “Dead” for the rest of the day, only to have the respawn counter refresh the next morning, heh. Ethan, of course, has no idea of the passage of time as the respawn seems “instant” from his perspective.

Rolando
Rolando
1 month ago

And that’s one of the chief mistakes liberals make so often. I’m guilty of it too. While we’re still bothering with argumenting and reason, as if the other side hadn’t proven they’re beyond that long ago… They’re already acting on their words, leaving us behind. Ethan’s just too busy arguing, to realise it’s an “act first, maybe talk it out later” situation. I mean, perhaps he’ll react before Deathblood starts shooting. But even if he does, he’s losing precious instants monologuing (it’s not a dialog anymore, clearly). I doubt Ethan could do much, in any case. He cannot possibly cover… Read more »

7eggert
7eggert
28 days ago
Reply to  Rolando

By reading your words I should conclude that if a republican threatens me just slightly, I should temporarily kill them and then think about what to do later?

You are a danger to society. You create a climate where criminals feel justified by looking at you.

There’s no reason here to kill the criminals. They won’t kill DB. They don’t try to escape till the bullets come at them.

Rolan7
Rolan7
28 days ago
Reply to  7eggert

Rolando wasn’t defending Deathblood but saying Ethan wasted time talking to him. Deathblood was never going to listen. Similarly, when armed people claim that I’m subhuman (every day), I should take them seriously rather than rely on talking it out.

Rolando
Rolando
28 days ago
Reply to  Rolan7

Thanks. At least someone got it. I just replied to this person, you can see me explaining my position further there.

I swear, I wish all education systems demanded that their students fully master text comprehension before giving them ANY diplomas. From elementary school, it should be taught and you should be required to get an A in it.

It’s clear way too many people, didn’t learn to read correctly. And to top it off, they’re usually absurdly confident on their misinterpretations *facepalm*

Rolando
Rolando
28 days ago
Reply to  7eggert

Wow. MASSIVELY faulty assumption. Where do I say that Ethan should kill Deathblood? Nope, you read me quite wrong. A big fail at text comprehension there. Let’s see what I mention, regarding what Ethan could/should do: “Act.” “React.” “Cover for them.” Where does any of that mean KILLING? Do you need a dictionary? I know Deathblood brought “vigilante killing” to the table, but that’s him. Ethan is very different. I know that. You know that. I shouldn’t have to explain something so painfully obvious. “You are a danger to society. You create a climate where criminals feel justified by looking… Read more »

jonathan corbett
jonathan corbett
1 month ago

Thing is, there are likely other “immortal” heroes. But what happens if you just trap him in cement up to his neck, for instance? Then just leave him there. What happens when it takes days for death to set in? That’s something that would be interesting to see. I mean, how his resurrection would handle that?? Since apparently if wounded but not dead, Ethan has to kill himself to get a respawn.

Charles
Charles
1 month ago

Sorry if this has already been brought up and i didn’t find it, but stories I’ve seen with characters who are replaced in some form after death employ disabling them in some fashion so that they also can’t suicide.

Mallengar
Mallengar
1 month ago

“Not from justice, from death. I want to give them every chance possible to change. Maybe this interaction between us will be the moment that finally makes it click for one of them, and they finally commit to serving their time and turning their life around. What if one of them goes to college and becomes a doctor or an engineer that invents the next great life-saving technology?”

playing it safe
playing it safe
1 month ago

I’ve been seeing a lot of comments about Ethan respawning over and over until Deathblood is out of ammo, but I have a feeling that there is going to be more to it than that.

I feel like whatever Deathblood’s super power is might cancel out Analog’s.

anonymouse
anonymouse
1 month ago

50/50 chance he either has a super power, like deadpools healing factor, or superman level invulnerability, or even generating ammunition for his weapons, or he is a total powerless vigilante, much like punisher or batman, who relies on firepower and hand to hand combat skills and sharp weapons (his intro i saw a katana handle over his left shoulder) to make up for a lack of power. if he had an combat power like laser eyes or blood boiling his enemies, he wouldnt be relying on 2 high power guns, a third unknown gun on his back, a katana or… Read more »

Kaitensatsuma
Kaitensatsuma
1 month ago

What, he kills people extra dead? 😄

Kazuma Taichi
Kazuma Taichi
1 month ago

Called it

Marty Hartwick
Marty Hartwick
1 month ago

Enter Zeke in 3…2…1…

ThatMageGuy
ThatMageGuy
1 month ago

I noticed that Deathblood has LoS on all his targets without hitting Analog.

Analog is going to regret engaging his mouth instead of his feet with this one.

Kaitensatsuma
Kaitensatsuma
1 month ago

To be fair Ethan could have clarified that he isn’t shielding them from Justice, he’s shielding them from being murdered which isn’t justice.

Vedrit
Vedrit
1 month ago

I’m surprised he even hesitated.

Critic
Critic
1 month ago

Considering these guys tried to kill Ethan multiple times I not super against what Deathblood is doing. While I do think taking them in is the better option I’m not gonna shed tears for these guys either.

BioYuGi
BioYuGi
1 month ago

There’s obviously debate about whether the evils the criminals have done allow them to be subjected to death. But I think the fact they stood there and watched Ethan talk for a few minutes and didn’t take that chance to run makes them too stupid to survive as well.

Rolando
Rolando
29 days ago
Reply to  BioYuGi

I see that thought around quite a bit, about them being too stupid, and it forgets one simple fact: Deathblood is aiming at them. They know that, if they move an inch, he’s very likely to start shooting right then and there. Sure, counting on the situation to resolve itself by Ethan talking Deathblood out of it… That’s a long shot (pun intended). But a lot of people have stayed put, even when odds were low, just in case… Now that Deathblood has made it 100% clear he’s gonna start shooting in about half a second… They’re gonna run for… Read more »

Pulse
Pulse
29 days ago

at the least hes gonna be a decent sponge for at least three bullets

fuzzy
fuzzy
29 days ago

He looks so disappointed

Montaillou
Montaillou
29 days ago

Huh, figured a guy like this runs into innocents on occasion and would have a taser handy.

The Legacy
The Legacy
29 days ago

To be fair, Dreadblood has a point. Granted, so does Ethan. Would be curious to see the legalities of this situation in this universe’s court of law.

random_npc
random_npc
29 days ago

this does actually demonstrate the flaw with Deathbloods position, “the system has failed, I will take it into my own hands.” and why its the less bad choice only when things are deeply deeply fucked. What happens when the person taking it into their own hands is wrong?

7eggert
7eggert
28 days ago
Reply to  random_npc

Every criminal is an example of someone deciding to take it into their own hands, mostly because the system failed to make them rich, but also many other reasons.

The Legacy
The Legacy
29 days ago

Hey Tim, would you be able to upload the 3rd frame as a desktop background and/or poster? 😁 Just remove the motion lines and that’s freaking epic!