You’ve all heard the old adage: ‘Friends help you move, best friends help you move bodies.’ A friend of mine and I were in a pub one day and this came up and he said ‘If either of us needed to move bodies and bury them in the woods at night, we both know the other one would be right there.’ After checking to ensure that this was a non-immanent scenario, I concurred. Real friends have your back. That can mean getting on your case if you aren’t respecting yourself or calling BS out when they see it. But they’ll… Read more »
Gonfrask
3 years ago
A woman playing with the console at home? That’s clearly fiction!
I swear is a joke…if is understood other way I’m sorry and will delete the coment ?
But really, I liked the detail of she playing with the console, not the classic reading a book or the kindle. If I or my girlfriend had a bay at job, we usually make a little trip to Pandora to break some heads or start killing zombies.
Just so you know, there’s nothing wrong with your comment haha. It’s the other guy who randomly decided to go way too far on what can be joked about, or whatever he was trying to say (I have no idea what he was trying to say).
The assertion you just made is “harmful” Timmeh. Jokes are the greatest force for ending racism, sexism, and bigotry in any form. As well as for bringing people together. Jokes allow us to talk about subjects that are difficult, and to take prejudices and stereotypes and laugh at how absurd they are. By laughing at things, we realize how ridiculous and unserious they really are, and find ourselves laughing at the same joke as someone who seems different from ourselves. Jokes give us the chance to laugh at others in a way that humanizes them, and to laugh at ourselves… Read more »
Like any issue that involves a deep wound, there is a time and a place where folk won’t be able to process anything said as funny and are further wounded. There is a time, perhaps down the road, where some humour can be useful. I think there are a lot of things in this world that leave deep, life long scars. In Canada right now, we’re wrestling with discovering what is now hundreds, but could be thousands, of kids buried at former residential schools for aboriginal people where the various Churches perpetrated cultural genocide and carried out draconian physical actions… Read more »
I’m not going to delete your comment, because I don’t really believe you had malicious intention behind it. I do think you were just making an off-hand joke. However, regardless of your intent, the “girls don’t play video games” myth is harmful. It’s true that video gaming has historically been a male-dominated pastime. I myself am guilty of using the “finding a girl gamer is like finding the holy grail” approach in my earlier work. There was a time when female gamers or game creators, were few and far between, so there is a reason that cliche exists. However the… Read more »
I don’t know how it is possible to notice an almost invisible hard-to define console control and not the awesome mushroom pictures behind!!
Lily
3 years ago
I am not sure what sort of details she think she is going to get by putting herself in danger. Is she going to describe the little mouth hole things on it? Does that really add to the article in any meaningful way?
Specifically? She did overhear some details regarding the specifics of Dr Eldritch’s plot that could have added additional information to her article. And she wouldn’t know what she will or will not learn if she doesn’t try to get close to the action.
Being a war correspondent (perhaps the best analogy to a super-hero/villain reporter) is a dangerous and difficult job. It leaves lasting scars. But someone needs to get the true picture, not from 10,000 km away, but right up and close so that truths may be recorded and to be known. There is a verity that comes from that close record and it can’t be faked by a chair-warmer back in an office. You see that when you read some opinion pieces where they clearly show an ignorance of the details of the real events.
Nono
3 years ago
For someone who only appeared in like one panel, I’m actually glad for the acknowledgement that Jackson does have writing chops and he’s not just where he is due to network favouritism. It’s still not great for Lilah, but it does make her career aspirations less hopeless since if it’s entirely network based and Jackson was a terrible writer, why would she even try?
Sure, but there was more involved in it. Question, answer, the look that passed between the two of them. Meaningful human interaction, is all.
Besides, it’s clear that “Lilah’s Friend” will be a recurring character and has a personality of her own, so it’s only on a technicality that it wasn’t passed earlier. Tim likes hanging onto names until they would pop up naturally.
EDIT: Didn’t realize that she had a name. Caroline. Dur, I should read.
All of this, and it’s also just the demonstration of post-shower domesticity and normal everyday life between female characters (especially hanging out naturally rather than shown mid-shower or sexed up in a towel afterwards or similar). Comic is maturing <3
Prime also asked her if she was okay or in need of medical assistance. Then Lilah introduced herself and asked her question.
Furthermore Caroline was also who she was on the phone with in the preceding panels.
According to Lovecraftian mythos, the elder gods are neither male nor female; they simply are. Attempting to define them in such mortal, biological terms is sure to send someone into a gibbering state of absolute madness and terror.
I’m upvoting yours because you appreciated the new information! It’s been a few weeks since you commented, so hopefully you went on a wiki walk about this already, but the Bechdel Test really is supposed to be the absolute minimum possible expectation. It’s less useful for one piece of media and more as a bare-min benchmark to judge just how frequently our media still fail to reach even that low limbo bar en-masse. For example if 40% of blockbuster movies failed the test, it wouldn’t mean the other 60% were quality entertainment with good representation, it just means there were… Read more »
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Christopher
3 years ago
I will admit, concerning dimensional portals leading to places of madness has me hoping for the impossible: A non-Canon meeting between Current Timeline Ethan and Previous Strip Ethan.
I, too, find this VERY unlikely, but GOD would that be awesome…
Smith
3 years ago
Looking forward to the moment when she realizes she needs a story nobody else can possibly get. A story on two ‘nobody’ heroes. One that doesn’t stay dead…. who just happens to actually be telling the truth about who he is.
Simon Beech
3 years ago
The changes in perspective in these panels are really clever. Loving the little viewpoint changes.
ShonaSoF
3 years ago
I like the touch of the Mario Mushroom paintings on the wall.
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THIS is real friendship !
You’ve all heard the old adage: ‘Friends help you move, best friends help you move bodies.’ A friend of mine and I were in a pub one day and this came up and he said ‘If either of us needed to move bodies and bury them in the woods at night, we both know the other one would be right there.’ After checking to ensure that this was a non-immanent scenario, I concurred. Real friends have your back. That can mean getting on your case if you aren’t respecting yourself or calling BS out when they see it. But they’ll… Read more »
A woman playing with the console at home? That’s clearly fiction!
Jokes aside, is a nice detail.
It really isn’t uncommon anymore. In fact its almost 50-50 now.
Go ahead, Google “how many gamers are women vs men”
It is just typical misogyny, trying to pretend it is a ‘joke’. Sure they also tell rape ‘jokes’.
I swear is a joke…if is understood other way I’m sorry and will delete the coment ?
But really, I liked the detail of she playing with the console, not the classic reading a book or the kindle. If I or my girlfriend had a bay at job, we usually make a little trip to Pandora to break some heads or start killing zombies.
Seriously dude? If people can’t make jokes, then we might as well end it all.
oh stfu, it’s a joke.
Don’t worry, I don’t hate you. There are things that are god things to joke about and others that are harmful.
Misogyny is harmful in all forms. If your jokes only hurt those who have been historically disadvantaged, you need new material.
Don’t make religious jokes please 🙂
No one was talking about religion here, buddy why are you complicating matters?
Why not? People make jokes about things that are bad, it’s called “dark humor”.
That being said, I think that when they said “ god things to joke about“, they meant ‘good things to joke about“
Phew I kinda wanna see what your original post was to get you to -40 XD
Is that because so few people can actually afford to game anymore? 🙂
(Yeah, I’ll send the dinosaurs out to chase you off my lawn…)
Actually if you dont restrict to a single platform women out strip men in gaming
I’m seeing this is growing. Please Tim, delete my comment and sorry for all this
Just so you know, there’s nothing wrong with your comment haha. It’s the other guy who randomly decided to go way too far on what can be joked about, or whatever he was trying to say (I have no idea what he was trying to say).
(Hint: he was saying that even if a comment is a joke, if it is harmful, it is not a good joke)
Good thing the original post isn’t harmful haha. But yeah the guy a couple comments down went full on “harmful” for whatever reason.
The assertion you just made is “harmful” Timmeh. Jokes are the greatest force for ending racism, sexism, and bigotry in any form. As well as for bringing people together. Jokes allow us to talk about subjects that are difficult, and to take prejudices and stereotypes and laugh at how absurd they are. By laughing at things, we realize how ridiculous and unserious they really are, and find ourselves laughing at the same joke as someone who seems different from ourselves. Jokes give us the chance to laugh at others in a way that humanizes them, and to laugh at ourselves… Read more »
Like any issue that involves a deep wound, there is a time and a place where folk won’t be able to process anything said as funny and are further wounded. There is a time, perhaps down the road, where some humour can be useful. I think there are a lot of things in this world that leave deep, life long scars. In Canada right now, we’re wrestling with discovering what is now hundreds, but could be thousands, of kids buried at former residential schools for aboriginal people where the various Churches perpetrated cultural genocide and carried out draconian physical actions… Read more »
I’m not going to delete your comment, because I don’t really believe you had malicious intention behind it. I do think you were just making an off-hand joke. However, regardless of your intent, the “girls don’t play video games” myth is harmful. It’s true that video gaming has historically been a male-dominated pastime. I myself am guilty of using the “finding a girl gamer is like finding the holy grail” approach in my earlier work. There was a time when female gamers or game creators, were few and far between, so there is a reason that cliche exists. However the… Read more »
I don’t know how it is possible to notice an almost invisible hard-to define console control and not the awesome mushroom pictures behind!!
I am not sure what sort of details she think she is going to get by putting herself in danger. Is she going to describe the little mouth hole things on it? Does that really add to the article in any meaningful way?
Specifically? She did overhear some details regarding the specifics of Dr Eldritch’s plot that could have added additional information to her article. And she wouldn’t know what she will or will not learn if she doesn’t try to get close to the action.
Being a war correspondent (perhaps the best analogy to a super-hero/villain reporter) is a dangerous and difficult job. It leaves lasting scars. But someone needs to get the true picture, not from 10,000 km away, but right up and close so that truths may be recorded and to be known. There is a verity that comes from that close record and it can’t be faked by a chair-warmer back in an office. You see that when you read some opinion pieces where they clearly show an ignorance of the details of the real events.
For someone who only appeared in like one panel, I’m actually glad for the acknowledgement that Jackson does have writing chops and he’s not just where he is due to network favouritism. It’s still not great for Lilah, but it does make her career aspirations less hopeless since if it’s entirely network based and Jackson was a terrible writer, why would she even try?
In that situation? Probably just optimism of youth.
Is that Lucas’s girlfriend in the original universe? But this time not faking her body shape? That would be a nice nod
Did they break up in the original series? I thought she dumped him because of Ethan
No, it was Kate. Remember?
I forgot her name and hoped it was Caroline. There goes my “brilliant” theory.
I thought Kate was the name of the girl who was trying to rob Lucas and got the wrong guy?
That was Emma
Where’s the Dramatis Personae list when one needs it….
This story arc now passes the Bechdel test.
Well, no. They talk about Jackson, a male character.
It passed the test the moment that Captain Prime said “Sticky.”
That is, two named woman characters spoke to each other about something other than a man.
If we get her friend’s name, it’ll have passed when she was going up the stairs.
I dunno. The “sticky” wasn’t much of a conversation. Like that is kinda being nitpicky and not being true to the original “rule” imo.
BUT it is interesting that I can’t remember another time that CAD has gotten close to passing the test.
Sure, but there was more involved in it. Question, answer, the look that passed between the two of them. Meaningful human interaction, is all.
Besides, it’s clear that “Lilah’s Friend” will be a recurring character and has a personality of her own, so it’s only on a technicality that it wasn’t passed earlier. Tim likes hanging onto names until they would pop up naturally.
EDIT: Didn’t realize that she had a name. Caroline. Dur, I should read.
All of this, and it’s also just the demonstration of post-shower domesticity and normal everyday life between female characters (especially hanging out naturally rather than shown mid-shower or sexed up in a towel afterwards or similar). Comic is maturing <3
Prime also asked her if she was okay or in need of medical assistance. Then Lilah introduced herself and asked her question.
Furthermore Caroline was also who she was on the phone with in the preceding panels.
The “sticky” might qualify, unless the Eldrich God was male. Then they’d be talking about at least the body fluid of a man.
According to Lovecraftian mythos, the elder gods are neither male nor female; they simply are. Attempting to define them in such mortal, biological terms is sure to send someone into a gibbering state of absolute madness and terror.
I’m upvoting this comment because it taught me something I never knew existed.
I’m upvoting yours because you appreciated the new information! It’s been a few weeks since you commented, so hopefully you went on a wiki walk about this already, but the Bechdel Test really is supposed to be the absolute minimum possible expectation. It’s less useful for one piece of media and more as a bare-min benchmark to judge just how frequently our media still fail to reach even that low limbo bar en-masse. For example if 40% of blockbuster movies failed the test, it wouldn’t mean the other 60% were quality entertainment with good representation, it just means there were… Read more »
I will admit, concerning dimensional portals leading to places of madness has me hoping for the impossible: A non-Canon meeting between Current Timeline Ethan and Previous Strip Ethan.
Not just previous strip Ethan but as originally drawn…. flat 2d less refined.
Of course previous strip Ethan would think that the chance meeting current Ethan as a Super was a fever dream from a 37 hours gaming marathon.
Only if they can also meet up with Sillies Ethan.
I, too, find this VERY unlikely, but GOD would that be awesome…
Looking forward to the moment when she realizes she needs a story nobody else can possibly get. A story on two ‘nobody’ heroes. One that doesn’t stay dead…. who just happens to actually be telling the truth about who he is.
The changes in perspective in these panels are really clever. Loving the little viewpoint changes.
I like the touch of the Mario Mushroom paintings on the wall.