The problem with an internet troll is you cant win. You think you’ve won, then they take that, flip it on its head and make you the bad guy and them the victim. ‘*You* did this to me. *I* am the victim’ (never mind it was my actions that caused this) For example: You banned me off the site, I cant post about my favourite fandom (Never mind all I was posting was stuff making everyone upset) Now I am going to show a suspicious ammount of skill in DDoS attacks (almost like this was my plan all along and… Read more »
This is why the Worm series by Wildbow has a “Kill List” Villians (or Heroes) that out secret identities, or use lots of deadly force, etc end up in the Birdcage or get outright shot by a laser from space.
I’ve found one way to win against an internet troll. First off you have to call them out and let them know you know they’re trying to troll you. Next you tell them that the reason they’re trolling and trying to ‘get’ people is because their lives are empty and meaningless and deep down they’re unhappy. Finally, make it clear that any responses to them have taken a minimum amount of time, effort, and thought which is all a sad pathetic troll like them deserves. Trolls really hate it.
You think you’ve won, then they take that, flip it on its head and make you the bad guy and them the victim. ‘*You* did this to me. *I* am the victim’ (never mind it was my actions that caused this)
Must confess that when read “drove them” thought they would be more than one, but then I told me “it is neutral, you moron”.
I’m having difficulties with the inclusive language but I’m working in it.
It isn’t a “new rule”, it’s been there all along – apparently first showing up all the way back in 1375, like the royal “We”
He/She and the singular “They/Them” are interchangeable. It’s a convenience, no vengeful penguins are going to swoop down and smack you with a ruler for it.
One of the examples I’ve often seen used; There’s a wallet on ground -> “somebody lost their wallet”
As an example how people use singular they without even realizing/noticing.
I am a fan of ’em for such cases, especially when spoken. It is natural for all generations because it is a slurring of her/him and is improved communication because it sounds as expected (think lipsom ipsom for visual) and thus dies not have a “what what” processing stutter, but also does not convey incorrect information.
Don’t call yourself a moron, I agree it’s confusing at times. Heck, when Ethan referred to Zeke as “they” when speaking of the robot’s actions in the past tense(EG ‘They did this’), I automatically substituted in “he” because my brain could wrap around it easier. “They” made it sound to me as if Ethan was speaking of some kind of collective of multiple minds in Zeke’s head.
Em? Ee?
For Zeke, though, that one very particular case I think it was cannon that Zeke is plural. Some humans are too and will use “we” and identify specifically as plural.
Somewhat. Native speakers lwarn intuition and not rules, so while they(singular) is technically correct it causes many people’s brains to stutter. Effective communication is not about rules and technically correct but about being understood immediately and without explanation. The fact that people do stutter (processing) over “they” singular in some examples demonstrates how it is *less* effective communication because that processing stutter means the information after is missed while the person catches up. This to me demonstrates that while some examples of singular “they” have been normalized, many instances are not. While brute force forcing it and public shaming while… Read more »
Wyvern
1 year ago
I know she lightly busted his chops at the end there, but is she a little less… shall we say dismissive of our Heroes than she was before?
Plus, a vigilante who will reach out to the cops when things grow beyond them is decidedly more tolerable than a vigilante who insists on failing and making things worse when they’re out of their league. Also forwarded along the info about the technophobe-ninja-robots-guy and bowed out once their real identities were at risk, so this is twice they’ve demonstrated a willingness to do what they can but acknowledge when they can’t.
We just had an arc that said” murder is bad”, even if it’s a total asshole who enjoys tormenting people into suicide and burning down random peoples homes.
God I’m glad I dont live in a country where laws are like that. I’m pretty happy to live in a country where death penalty has been abolished more than 41y ago (yeah, even for terrorists and stuff). America and japan are almost the last 1st world countries still using death penalty, you know.
yeah I guess the usa is the only pragmatic democracy, and china and iran are both very pragmatic, while EU is lost. So, why are there more murders in the usa than in EU? Big question… or not
The ever endless argument between the Batman way and The Punisher way.
Batman: “If you kill a killer, the number of killers will be the same.”
Frank Castle: “So I don’t stop at one.”
First of all, if batman is concerned about the law being upheld, he needs to hang up the cape and turn himself in. second, if a crazy guy kills a bunch of people, send him to the nuthouse. if he escapes and kills a bunch more people, capture him and send him back to the nuthouse. if he escapes AGAIN and kills a bunch more people… its time to put his ass down, because its become crystal clear the nuthouse can’t keep him contained, and at that point the lives of innocent people are more important than the life of… Read more »
I wonder how it works in countries with no death penalty, compared to the usa. Oh wait, in all of western europe death penalty has been abolished and murder rate is 5 times LOWER than in the usa! crazy, right?
i’m against the death penalty not because i believe killing a murderer is wrong(its not, and may anyone who thinks it is fall into one’s path and lets see if they still think its wrong), but because the system we have in place has a chance of executing innocent people. i believe killing innocent people is wrong. murderers can go die on a cross.
No, these days the criminals just get let go with a veritable slap on the wrist from court. Even if they stab a child 16 time, R their body, then harm more people.
‘”hey, look, this happened once, it must mean it happens everyday” says the idiot. God I’m glad I dont live in such a retarded country, where ppl still think judicial murder is a good idea. Enjoy your guns, murders and for profit prison.
Nb: my country doesnt filter news, I live in a real democracy (where the guy with the most votes wins, and where 9 pos cant prevent woman from having abortion)
Some people refuse to reform, and we shut down all the asylums decades ago. And now thanks to soft on crime (and growing increasingly softER) policies,even murderers and R—let’s get out on light sentencing because ‘prisons are too harsh’. What exactly do you propose… Give them a bouquet, a hug, and ask them nicely not to be bad anymore? :/
‘It doesn’t work’… Well I’m pretty sure the deceased isn’t going to rise up and harm more people. xD
And yeah, it doesn’t act to deter people, when it’s rarely ever enforeced, and nearly abolished in most states.
And there’s nothing ‘racist’ about it. Unless *you* think a particular group of people is more violent, and willing to comit crimes and murder, than other groups. Then that’s *you* being racist.
There are a LOT of cases of death row people exonerated with dna evidence, and under review the case against them was a disaster and miscarriage of justice. To declare no one has the right to take a live, also means we cannot have executioners. If prisons were re-evaluated for function, they could hold people who would otherwise be executed and keep them from harming the general public. Currently they serve more as training grounds.
Oh, logan, just tell me you’re a racist conservative without telling. I wonder how ppl can deny the systemic racism in the usa, including in the police and justice system.
Also, no, it does not work, just look at the murder rate in the usa compared to the rest of the world. Jk I know you wont because you wouldnt love the result.
I hope you enjoy being in the same group than iran, china and north korea, while all europe abolished it long ago.
People like leduk never have any answers to that particular question. They think everything can be solved with hugs and singing kumbaya in a circle and have no solution whatsoever for people who would happily open fire on that circle for fun or because they believed the people in the circle were some form of the ‘other’ that they despise.
Of course, we have to degrade people when they disagree with us, and provide evidence that their feelings are correct, instead of directly answering a question. While we can easily look at other countries and see the death penalty isn’t necessary, we can also ask ourselves… Are people who have killed others still worthy of compassion? For any Christian, that answer should be obvious (I point that out, because for some reason, a large number of the people I know who support the death penalty are, in fact, Christian). For anyone else, ask yourself, have I ever done something that… Read more »
I mostly agree, but the worst crime is preventing someone from going to heaven. Mathew 18:6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
Teaching a child to swear is not comparable to rape, torture, permanent disfigurement with lifelong pain and loss of function, or making someone watch people they care for die.
my country abolished death penalty more than 40years ago, and yet, we have less murders than the usa.
So, I allready answered this, you just refuse to see it 🙂
(nb: your pathetic attempt of sarcasm wasnt really a good idea, it makes you look like an idiot, you know)
Zaldrak
1 year ago
Would not having a face make you easier to track, rather than harder?
Unclear. It does mean he never has to show his face anywhere…
FireballDragon
1 year ago
At least they got that Elijah guy to… sort of mend his ways. A little bit.
Bloof
1 year ago
She’s taken this better than I thought. Also, up until this point I thought he started his career with Ethan.
The abuse must be easier to bear knowing that Others know he’s being actively misrepresented by someone notorious.
foducool
1 year ago
well at least he won’t be able to drive Ethan to suicide
Sure he can, hell, even a broken tooth did drive Ethan to suicide…
Maxwell
1 year ago
He doesn’t have a face, doesn’t have fingertips, is hard to trace…
Am I guessing right that he also has greenish skin?
If so we are in for a villain evolution.
Last edited 1 year ago by Maxwell
Lily
1 year ago
I would think not having a face would make someone easier to track.
Unintended (maybe) ammo for troll confrontation.
Ethan: ‘FACE ME! Oh wait… ARE you looking at me? It’s so hard to tell when talking to a mound of flesh can you maybe wave or something?I would hate to drop the ball Again …Dammit you’re probably sterile now too, so that can’t happen either.’
Vukodlak
1 year ago
Okay now she has to make a joke like. “Next time you drop him off a roof don’t have ass it.”
MRD
1 year ago
Is anyone else hearing CCH Pounder when they read Captain Prime’s dialogue? Just me? Okay.
Rolando
1 year ago
I just enjoy Ethan not being discouraged in the slightest by her criticism in the last panel. He does his trademark “oblivious yet mature” thing, where he’s just too pure and humble (or simply too distracted) to get all defensive or offended.
leduk
1 year ago
The amount of ppl literally calling for murder in the comment (judicial or not) is crazy af. Classist, racist and useless idea that never worked anywhere.
Leduk has taken this point beyond the comic strip and into real world governance. The ‘calls for literal murder’ they’re whinging about are over real cases and laws.
it doesnt work at all AND it also is morally wrong but look at some answers (like logan): some ppl here have no morality. Well, at least, a fucked up, violent, illiterate one.
‘Bleeding hearts’ don’t work on criminals that refuse to change. You’ll only wind up victim to those same criminals in the end. Literally, or figuratively.
good thing I live in a country where I’m not afraid of being killed by some crazy random dude, while also not having death penalty. Enjoy your shit show, I guess?
Jack0r
1 year ago
Is Captain Prime part of the subscription squad?
The others in the squad are, I guess, Segnor Spotify, Mighty 365, Play Pass Protector, Creative Cloud Crusader and their side kick, “The only fan”.
yetik
1 year ago
The problem with an internet troll is you cant win. You think you’ve won, then they take that, flip it on its head and make you the bad guy and them the victim. ‘*You* did this to me. *I* am the victim’ (never mind it was my actions that caused this)
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… … imagine the street cred Analog & D-pad will get if they manage to win against the Troll.
“We dealt with a criminal who’ve gotten one-up over Captain Prime.”
The problem with an internet troll is you cant win. You think you’ve won, then they take that, flip it on its head and make you the bad guy and them the victim. ‘*You* did this to me. *I* am the victim’ (never mind it was my actions that caused this) For example: You banned me off the site, I cant post about my favourite fandom (Never mind all I was posting was stuff making everyone upset) Now I am going to show a suspicious ammount of skill in DDoS attacks (almost like this was my plan all along and… Read more »
The narcissist’s prayer also applies to trolls:
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
You can’t win you say…
…sooooo…
…what if the troll blocked you?
I counted that as a win, and it wasn’t like I was trying ? or maybe I’m really trying, not sure.
But I counted the result as a win.
?
a troll wont block you
This is why the Worm series by Wildbow has a “Kill List” Villians (or Heroes) that out secret identities, or use lots of deadly force, etc end up in the Birdcage or get outright shot by a laser from space.
I’ve found one way to win against an internet troll. First off you have to call them out and let them know you know they’re trying to troll you. Next you tell them that the reason they’re trolling and trying to ‘get’ people is because their lives are empty and meaningless and deep down they’re unhappy. Finally, make it clear that any responses to them have taken a minimum amount of time, effort, and thought which is all a sad pathetic troll like them deserves. Trolls really hate it.
The only way to win is to not participate.
5 months later, and guess what happened…
No no, leave this one to Commander Blood n’ Guts
Must confess that when read “drove them” thought they would be more than one, but then I told me “it is neutral, you moron”.
I’m having difficulties with the inclusive language but I’m working in it.
Could also be that she didn’t know so just used “they” as a catch all. Works since she didn’t seem sure of the hero’s name.
Which is what it’s always been for, it’s not like using “they” when you don’t know the gender is a new thing.
Ok, where were all these rules when I was learning english? I didn’t know that!
And thank you for the clarification.
It isn’t a “new rule”, it’s been there all along – apparently first showing up all the way back in 1375, like the royal “We”
He/She and the singular “They/Them” are interchangeable. It’s a convenience, no vengeful penguins are going to swoop down and smack you with a ruler for it.
One of the examples I’ve often seen used;
There’s a wallet on ground -> “somebody lost their wallet”
As an example how people use singular they without even realizing/noticing.
I’m pretty sure there are a LOT of rules you didnt learn back then. I learn about my own langage pretty often and I’m 40.
I am a fan of ’em for such cases, especially when spoken. It is natural for all generations because it is a slurring of her/him and is improved communication because it sounds as expected (think lipsom ipsom for visual) and thus dies not have a “what what” processing stutter, but also does not convey incorrect information.
Don’t call yourself a moron, I agree it’s confusing at times. Heck, when Ethan referred to Zeke as “they” when speaking of the robot’s actions in the past tense(EG ‘They did this’), I automatically substituted in “he” because my brain could wrap around it easier. “They” made it sound to me as if Ethan was speaking of some kind of collective of multiple minds in Zeke’s head.
Em? Ee?
For Zeke, though, that one very particular case I think it was cannon that Zeke is plural. Some humans are too and will use “we” and identify specifically as plural.
In English, we’ve used they/them/their as singular long before the idea of inclusive pronouns. Get over yourself.
“Oh no, they got locked out of their car”
That isn’t anything new. The singular they has been used for centuries.It’s completely normal grammar.
Somewhat. Native speakers lwarn intuition and not rules, so while they(singular) is technically correct it causes many people’s brains to stutter. Effective communication is not about rules and technically correct but about being understood immediately and without explanation. The fact that people do stutter (processing) over “they” singular in some examples demonstrates how it is *less* effective communication because that processing stutter means the information after is missed while the person catches up. This to me demonstrates that while some examples of singular “they” have been normalized, many instances are not. While brute force forcing it and public shaming while… Read more »
I know she lightly busted his chops at the end there, but is she a little less… shall we say dismissive of our Heroes than she was before?
Ah, bonding over a mutual dislike of supervillains
Plus, a vigilante who will reach out to the cops when things grow beyond them is decidedly more tolerable than a vigilante who insists on failing and making things worse when they’re out of their league. Also forwarded along the info about the technophobe-ninja-robots-guy and bowed out once their real identities were at risk, so this is twice they’ve demonstrated a willingness to do what they can but acknowledge when they can’t.
I say kill the Troll and be done with it.
We just had an arc that said” murder is bad”, even if it’s a total asshole who enjoys tormenting people into suicide and burning down random peoples homes.
There’s nearly 8 billion people in the world. Not all of them deserve mercy or compassion especially when they like blowing up people ‘for lulz’.
God I’m glad I dont live in a country where laws are like that. I’m pretty happy to live in a country where death penalty has been abolished more than 41y ago (yeah, even for terrorists and stuff). America and japan are almost the last 1st world countries still using death penalty, you know.
lots of ppl are bloodthirsty here lmao
Or pragmatic and willing to accept harsh realities.
yeah I guess the usa is the only pragmatic democracy, and china and iran are both very pragmatic, while EU is lost. So, why are there more murders in the usa than in EU? Big question… or not
and where has that absolute logic gotten the batman? let’s take a quote directly from the caped crusader himself to answer that:
“Do you have any idea how many people i’ve murdered by letting you live?”
The ever endless argument between the Batman way and The Punisher way.
Batman: “If you kill a killer, the number of killers will be the same.”
Frank Castle: “So I don’t stop at one.”
First of all, if batman is concerned about the law being upheld, he needs to hang up the cape and turn himself in. second, if a crazy guy kills a bunch of people, send him to the nuthouse. if he escapes and kills a bunch more people, capture him and send him back to the nuthouse. if he escapes AGAIN and kills a bunch more people… its time to put his ass down, because its become crystal clear the nuthouse can’t keep him contained, and at that point the lives of innocent people are more important than the life of… Read more »
I wonder how it works in countries with no death penalty, compared to the usa. Oh wait, in all of western europe death penalty has been abolished and murder rate is 5 times LOWER than in the usa! crazy, right?
That’s not because of a lack of the death penalty. They have many more laws that make murder a feat in itself.
So, death penalty isnt the solution to lower murder rate. QED.
Now you sound like you’re in favor of it! Lol
i’m against the death penalty not because i believe killing a murderer is wrong(its not, and may anyone who thinks it is fall into one’s path and lets see if they still think its wrong), but because the system we have in place has a chance of executing innocent people. i believe killing innocent people is wrong. murderers can go die on a cross.
downvoted for facts
Maybe the problem is the prison can’t hold them.
Fictional prisons are made to be broken out of.
This is bullshit tho. In real life, the joker wouldnt escape every 2 comics.
No, these days the criminals just get let go with a veritable slap on the wrist from court. Even if they stab a child 16 time, R their body, then harm more people.
why are you lying like that? Do you went to court even once?
Read actual American news, not just the biased BS your country filters. That was a case that *actually* happened recently.
‘”hey, look, this happened once, it must mean it happens everyday” says the idiot. God I’m glad I dont live in such a retarded country, where ppl still think judicial murder is a good idea. Enjoy your guns, murders and for profit prison.
Nb: my country doesnt filter news, I live in a real democracy (where the guy with the most votes wins, and where 9 pos cant prevent woman from having abortion)
Yeah she didn’t complain at all about him “dropping” the troll.
She probably would have considered it a win if the dude was killed and she didn’t have to fill out the paperwork for doing it.
Drove a hero to suicide. Killed innocents.
Yep, society may cringe at the necessary removal, but it will undoubtedly be improved by it.
society may not “cringe”, a civilized society will PREVENT that.
Every civilized country abolished death penalty long ago. Dont be like that dude. Dont kill people as punishment.
Some people refuse to reform, and we shut down all the asylums decades ago. And now thanks to soft on crime (and growing increasingly softER) policies,even murderers and R—let’s get out on light sentencing because ‘prisons are too harsh’. What exactly do you propose… Give them a bouquet, a hug, and ask them nicely not to be bad anymore? :/
Death penalty just doesnt work. Look in every other 1st world country, how it works. Without even mentionning how racist it is in the usa, just sayin.
‘It doesn’t work’… Well I’m pretty sure the deceased isn’t going to rise up and harm more people. xD
And yeah, it doesn’t act to deter people, when it’s rarely ever enforeced, and nearly abolished in most states.
And there’s nothing ‘racist’ about it. Unless *you* think a particular group of people is more violent, and willing to comit crimes and murder, than other groups. Then that’s *you* being racist.
There are a LOT of cases of death row people exonerated with dna evidence, and under review the case against them was a disaster and miscarriage of justice. To declare no one has the right to take a live, also means we cannot have executioners. If prisons were re-evaluated for function, they could hold people who would otherwise be executed and keep them from harming the general public. Currently they serve more as training grounds.
Oh, logan, just tell me you’re a racist conservative without telling. I wonder how ppl can deny the systemic racism in the usa, including in the police and justice system.
Also, no, it does not work, just look at the murder rate in the usa compared to the rest of the world. Jk I know you wont because you wouldnt love the result.
I hope you enjoy being in the same group than iran, china and north korea, while all europe abolished it long ago.
People like leduk never have any answers to that particular question. They think everything can be solved with hugs and singing kumbaya in a circle and have no solution whatsoever for people who would happily open fire on that circle for fun or because they believed the people in the circle were some form of the ‘other’ that they despise.
Of course, we have to degrade people when they disagree with us, and provide evidence that their feelings are correct, instead of directly answering a question. While we can easily look at other countries and see the death penalty isn’t necessary, we can also ask ourselves… Are people who have killed others still worthy of compassion? For any Christian, that answer should be obvious (I point that out, because for some reason, a large number of the people I know who support the death penalty are, in fact, Christian). For anyone else, ask yourself, have I ever done something that… Read more »
I mostly agree, but the worst crime is preventing someone from going to heaven. Mathew 18:6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
Teaching a child to swear is not comparable to rape, torture, permanent disfigurement with lifelong pain and loss of function, or making someone watch people they care for die.
dude, please, cut the crap and grow up. I’m glad I wont go to heaven if it means being with religious fanatics
there are many harms far worse than murder. Humans are very creative.
my country abolished death penalty more than 40years ago, and yet, we have less murders than the usa.
So, I allready answered this, you just refuse to see it 🙂
(nb: your pathetic attempt of sarcasm wasnt really a good idea, it makes you look like an idiot, you know)
Would not having a face make you easier to track, rather than harder?
Unclear. It does mean he never has to show his face anywhere…
At least they got that Elijah guy to… sort of mend his ways. A little bit.
She’s taken this better than I thought. Also, up until this point I thought he started his career with Ethan.
The abuse must be easier to bear knowing that Others know he’s being actively misrepresented by someone notorious.
well at least he won’t be able to drive Ethan to suicide
Sure he can, hell, even a broken tooth did drive Ethan to suicide…
He doesn’t have a face, doesn’t have fingertips, is hard to trace…
Am I guessing right that he also has greenish skin?
If so we are in for a villain evolution.
I would think not having a face would make someone easier to track.
He’s the Chameleon now. Or Phantomas.
Unintended (maybe) ammo for troll confrontation.
Ethan: ‘FACE ME! Oh wait… ARE you looking at me? It’s so hard to tell when talking to a mound of flesh can you maybe wave or something?I would hate to drop the ball Again …Dammit you’re probably sterile now too, so that can’t happen either.’
Okay now she has to make a joke like. “Next time you drop him off a roof don’t have ass it.”
Is anyone else hearing CCH Pounder when they read Captain Prime’s dialogue? Just me? Okay.
I just enjoy Ethan not being discouraged in the slightest by her criticism in the last panel. He does his trademark “oblivious yet mature” thing, where he’s just too pure and humble (or simply too distracted) to get all defensive or offended.
The amount of ppl literally calling for murder in the comment (judicial or not) is crazy af. Classist, racist and useless idea that never worked anywhere.
It makes them feel good. Big strong men the lot of them, talking about killing a fictional comic book bad guy in a comments section.
Leduk has taken this point beyond the comic strip and into real world governance. The ‘calls for literal murder’ they’re whinging about are over real cases and laws.
ok maga
It’s worked lots of times. Its failed lots of times too. For me its not a utilitarian argument. It’s just morally wrong.
it doesnt work at all AND it also is morally wrong but look at some answers (like logan): some ppl here have no morality. Well, at least, a fucked up, violent, illiterate one.
‘Bleeding hearts’ don’t work on criminals that refuse to change. You’ll only wind up victim to those same criminals in the end. Literally, or figuratively.
good thing I live in a country where I’m not afraid of being killed by some crazy random dude, while also not having death penalty. Enjoy your shit show, I guess?
Is Captain Prime part of the subscription squad?
The others in the squad are, I guess, Segnor Spotify, Mighty 365, Play Pass Protector, Creative Cloud Crusader and their side kick, “The only fan”.
The problem with an internet troll is you cant win. You think you’ve won, then they take that, flip it on its head and make you the bad guy and them the victim. ‘*You* did this to me. *I* am the victim’ (never mind it was my actions that caused this)