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Moral Litmus Test

April 21, 2023 by Tim

My friends and I have been playing Wartales since it launched out of early access earlier this month. I’m having a blast. It has all sorts of stuff I love. Co-op, turn-based tactics combat, RPG choices and character progression, exploration, tradeskills, and the kind of sandbox freedom that really shows you which direction someone’s moral compass is pointing.

Want to survive by skinning and eating the corpses of the foes you fell? No problem.

Want to capture people in chains and force them mine ore for you? Go ahead.

Want to then sell those slaves to a prison or band of outlaws for profit? Sure.

How about selling everything you have to merchants for gold, and then just turning around and slaughtering those merchants to take your stuff back? Okay!

Want to go on a crime spree, and then when the law catches up to you, claim it was your alcoholic pony and stand by as they’re hauled off to jail? Go for it. After all, you can just go break them out of prison afterwards.


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Acher4
Acher4
1 month ago

*reads description*
what is even this game???

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>.>

I need it! ๐Ÿ˜›

Olivia
Olivia
1 month ago
Reply to  Acher4

I know Tim described the game in the description, but didn’t he used to put game titles in the margin of the comic to easily determine what it’s about?

Gnarph
Gnarph
1 month ago

Im sorry, I laughed harder at going on a crime spree and blaming the alcoholic pony than the actual comic….

Gonfrask
Gonfrask
1 month ago

And once you run out of bandits, there will be mysterious missings in the towns and villages of the area…
But…ey…probably is a cat thing!

GeorgeV
GeorgeV
1 month ago
Reply to  Gonfrask

Well then, time to start harvesting all the cats to prevent this from happening too often!

Crestlinger
Crestlinger
1 month ago

Add in the actual origin of motherf-ker and you’re all set for them to perpetuate the cycle.

Pulse
Pulse
1 month ago

sounds like the average The Forest playthrough right there

Dagroth
Dagroth
1 month ago
Reply to  Pulse

I only played “The Forest” a little, can you actually butcher killed people for meat and/or leather there? For me it fit RimWorld, cannibalism, slavery (with DLC), and more (like making slaves have kids, whether they want to or not, then using said kids for genetic research, organ harvesting, or just turning them into slaves, too) – it’s sometimes called “war crime simulation” for a reason. ๐Ÿ˜‰ (I didn’t go as far though, I mean, slavery and cannibalism yes, breeding people for whatever, no. It probably wouldn’t be profitable anyway, with feeding them, pregnant slave not working as efficiently*, etc.… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Dagroth
Dom
Dom
1 month ago
Reply to  Dagroth

1, yes, it’s a gruesome game series. Not for the faint hearted.
The way you can use human body parts is very creative to ‘survive’ against the enemies of the game series.

Never tried Rimworld. I thought it was more wholesome than that. XD

Ekevu
Ekevu
1 month ago
Reply to  Dom

Rimworld can be wholesome: you can make an utopian colony in which people are eternally young and can pursue their passions, and where even the unfriendly neighbours that raid you are resocialized and redeemed.

At the same time, it is also the only game where the wiki includes a breakdown for the cost-effectiveness of growing children in cloning vats to harvest their organs for financial gain.

Jedi
Jedi
1 month ago

Is this a new Update of Rust ?

Scarsdale
Scarsdale
1 month ago
Reply to  Jedi

LOL wouldn’t surprise me any.

Ekevu
Ekevu
1 month ago

At first I thought this was going to be about Rimworld, but it sounds like Wartales doesn’t allow quite as many war crimes. The one with the alcoholic pony is definitely new, though.

Rayne
Rayne
1 month ago

This sounds like what you do in Rimworld on a regular basis.

Scortch
Scortch
1 month ago

I’ve been looking at this game and have been debating picking it up with my play group. I’m really glad you’re a fan of it so far, definitely pushing me in the try it camp.

JozMk.II
JozMk.II
1 month ago

Uh, this comic made me laugh the hardest of all of Timโ€™s Iโ€™ve seen in a long time. The enthusiastic smile on that playerโ€™s face as he conveys his well-thought-out but heinously effโ€™d-up ideas is priceless!

Thomas D
Thomas D
1 month ago

That actually goes a long way to describe the gameplay (or rather *a* possible) gameplay of Conan Exiles as well … ๐Ÿ˜‰

Dom
Dom
1 month ago
Reply to  Thomas D

I know, right? XD

John Brand
John Brand
1 month ago

Sounds like a game created by sociopathic children to me…pass.

DanVzare
DanVzare
1 month ago
Reply to  John Brand

Agreed, which is why it’s suddenly become a must-buy for me. ๐Ÿ˜€

leduk
leduk
1 month ago
Reply to  John Brand

yeah same, not my cup of tea

Dom
Dom
1 month ago

Sounds like a game made to train people to survive by any means if society does collapse.
Alcoholic pony to the rescue!

Verdiekus
Verdiekus
1 month ago

Why is this the first Iโ€™ve heard of this game?

WereCatf
WereCatf
1 month ago

I actually would’ve been fully on board until the guy brought up slavery. I mean, corpses are corpses: it’s not like they’ll care what one does to them, so why not use them for something?

Kelibath
Kelibath
1 month ago
Reply to  WereCatf

It’s more about what it does to /you/. I mean, in the real world, prion disease is an effective limiter – most games don’t include that consequence, or at least not explicitly. But also whether or not viewing bodies as grist/fertiliser/meat bleeds into how you view the living beings around you and how pragmatic you become as a whole. For example it’s different to weigh up the ethical cost of fellow survivors starving versus the emotions, respect and memory of the dead – or keep frozen body parts on hand to use to treat injured living souls – than it… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Kelibath
Prime_pm
Prime_pm
1 month ago

I just got the game this week and been playing nonstop. Only just made it to Cortia or whatever. Frequent crashes though; my PC is a lemon so I can’t update my driver.

Thraxas
Thraxas
1 month ago

Yeah i played the demo and was quite intrigued. I will probably buy it as soon as I have time for it (and itโ€™s on sale)
I found the combat pretty neat though I am more a fan of a more fantasy like setting

mrdiscoman
mrdiscoman
1 month ago

I’ve been playing Wartales for a couple weeks now. It’s quickly climbing the ranks of my favorite games. I haven’t tried co-op yet, but it seems fun.

Popsicle
Popsicle
1 month ago

This sounds absolutely brilliant!

Lord Hideous
Lord Hideous
1 month ago

This sounds like some of the D&D games I’ve been in…

How’s the single player on this?

Scarsdale
Scarsdale
1 month ago

I’ve played the Forest and yes it’s about the most gross game I’ve ever played. Besides, eating mutated flesh is a huge risk to expose yourself to those same forces that caused their mutation. Minecraft also lets you eat zombie flesh so yeah, not a new idea. I’ve pretty much played games as a “Chaotic Good” character, I’d never play a game like that. As far as slavery and cannibalism goes, yeah that would be just outside of how I’d play a game. Human skin is too thin to make leather with so you’d waste more than you could have… Read more »

Dagroth
Dagroth
1 month ago
Reply to  Scarsdale

In RimWorld at least human skin can be quite useful. Yes, it doesn’t make very good clothing (in terms of insulation, protection, etc.), but you can turn it into furniture (like armchairs for example) or clothes where the protection doesn’t matter (f.ex. for slaves), or just sell it.

And even if your colonist don’t like eating human meat, you may turn it into kibble (animal food), or just stick the corpses into a freezer and let your meat-eating animals have a go at them.

Scarsdale
Scarsdale
1 month ago
Reply to  Dagroth

I’ve never played it so I’ll take your word.

jack
jack
1 month ago

for a second i thought we were talking about a certain zomboid mod, there

Flintlocke
Flintlocke
1 month ago

I thought you were describing Rimworld for a second there lol

EDIT: Many had the same thought apparently

Last edited 1 month ago by Flintlocke
birdjericho
birdjericho
1 month ago

Sounds like an average day in Rimworld! Do you have any idea how valuable human leather is? It’s, like, $3.30 a unit! XD

Esc
Esc
1 month ago

One thing that always bothers me about these “look at how evil you can be when we allow all these mechanical options!” games is that they don’t really model the actual downsides and externalities of being a sociopathic criminal. In any normal human society in history you wouldn’t be able to get away with this forever, keeping large amounts of slaves is something *societies* enable, not singular entities. You need so many guards enforcing and preventing escape/revolt it becomes unwieldy and eventually any organized society is going to come and bonk you on the head. Who’s gonna protect you? All… Read more »

Halosty
Halosty
1 month ago
Reply to  Esc

Also cannibalism is bad beyond moral reasons. There’s health issues too.

Axiomite
Axiomite
1 month ago
Reply to  Halosty

Just make sure it is cooked enough to kill any potential infections that might introduce prions to your body. ๐Ÿ˜€

Mike
Mike
1 month ago
Reply to  Axiomite

Hey man I can take whatever prions you throw at me, just you watch!

CTOWNS
CTOWNS
1 month ago
Reply to  Axiomite

Many prions can’t be reliably defeated by heat. Cooking wouldn’t necessarily save you!

GeorgeV
GeorgeV
1 month ago
Reply to  CTOWNS

I love how much that first sentence sounds like battle tactics against aliens in a cheap sci-fi series.

Axiomite
Axiomite
1 month ago

Damn, sounds like a 3-D version of Rimworld. Or at least Rimworld-lite. I mean, all things considered, those are rookie things compared to the shit I’ve done in Rimworld. Nothing like fending off a raid, taking the survivors, harvesting their organs, turning their bodies into pemican and their skins in to extremely high-quality dusters – and then donating most of it to the tribe that raided you to boost your reputation with them. Only so you can stave off the next raid while you build the necessary resources to scour them from the planet with a sub-orbital launched MOAB.

Ben
Ben
1 month ago

No no, he’s got a point.

Dagroth
Dagroth
1 month ago
Reply to  Ben

He just might, if the other two decide to shoot or stab him over it.
(I’m not sorry. ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

CTOWNS
CTOWNS
1 month ago

Lotta people using the word “sociopath” here, when good ol’ “psychopath” is actually a better fit ๐Ÿ™‚

Last edited 1 month ago by CTOWNS
leduk
leduk
1 month ago
Reply to  CTOWNS
MRD
MRD
1 month ago

So… It’s Rimworld. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Casper
Casper
1 month ago

Like so many others I thought at first this was about an average game of Rimworld ๐Ÿ˜€