All three simultaneously remember, oh, yeah, we run a business, too.
Raemon
2 years ago
The unrealistic part of this is that running a business is super exhausting and there’s just no way they also have time to be superheroes.
Jere
2 years ago
Wasn’t the gps check bound to randomly fail at somenpoint anyway? I would not trust gps to reliably and constantly be accurate to a few meters (the size of the backroom). So one random jitter and boom…
I mean…on one hand you are 100% right. On the other hand, in comics, being very smart is kinda a superpower…tech just doesn’t go wrong in a smart person’s hands in a comic. It is one of the accepted tropes.
I bet at least half of us are geeks here.
So it is inevitable – we can readily accept superpowers, but not technical inaccuracies 😉
we will also happily discuss finer technical details of Star Trak transporter’s energy draw or maximum possible snap-per-hour of Thanos’ Gauntlet 😉
Well, if your going there, GPS is a listen only protocol. There is no way to locate a pure GPS receiver. Things like phones tend to report their location, but they have to use WiFi or cellular to do so.
Since Zeke was contained in a single room it would of made more sense and would of been way more reliable would of been something simple like a “invisible fence” setup. My sister did that for her very large rottweiler, if he crossed the buried wire it would trigger a shock collar he wore. Same tech could of been used and hidden easily over the door.
What you are hearing when your brain thinks “would of” is probably “would’ve” the contraction of would have. Grammar and spelling is somewhat less flexible than speech because it is less open to interpretation.
It’s not “how you talk,” it’s just incorrect. You may be using contractions, but that means you’re saying “would’ve,” not would of, because the latter means absolutely nothing.
There’s a quote by a fantasy (or maybe sci-fi?) author that I’m struggling to find. They essentially said that, if your story contains horses and dragons, and you expect us to believe your dragons and all the specifics about them, then we’d better already believe your horses.
Despite Scott saying GPS, that doesn’t sound like GPS. GPS is globally positioned using satellites. This sounds more like using a Bluetooth triangulation or similar, using multiple beacons (which presumably they already had in the shop) to locate their range within a short distance. Much more reliable to a small margin of error, but requires beacons to be placed within a very short (~200ft for Bluetooth IIRC) distance.
Also, if you’re building something like that using an unreliable tech like GPS, you can also build in margins of error and redundancy checking.
I could believe GPS being more stable in Omnitropolis or Scott’s code filtering out that jitter, but the rest of the plan rubs me the wrong way.
GPS is completely passive, the device listens to the signal from multiple satellites and calculates its position from that. So no amount of beacons would receive any signal from Zeke.
That’s what I was saying from my experience. Sometimes my position is randomly on the other side of a street. Especially when Putin started the war it wasn’t very accurate (might be unrelated). But narrative imperative dictates that tat world’s GPS works well inside buildings.
It could be a two-factor GPS triangulator that doesn’t just reply on the GPS network since that has built in limits to its accuracy. they could be combining the GPS tracking with cell network and wifi pings like AirPods to get a much more accurate location on him.
Gonfrask
2 years ago
Cyberpunk 2053, still in development, but maybe it delay for a few years..
GUNnibal
2 years ago
Ethan could have said that it was just another Zachtronics game – all questions and arguments would have been invalidated that very instant.
Pretty sure the “it” in that sentence is the GPS tracker, so “it” isn’t a pronoun. It’s admittedly ambiguous, but that seems like the more obvious interpretation to me.
“Its” the pronoun doesn’t have an apostrophe any more than “hi’s” or “her’s” does. Only time is when it’s a contraction of “it is”.
Syn
2 years ago
Should have said Star Citizen or EVE Online, that would have caused him to tune out the conversation.
Kaitensatsuma
2 years ago
Ooooooooooooh Right.
We run a store occasionally too
When did we last pay rent???
Scarsdale
2 years ago
Yeah this reminds me of “Monsters, Inc.” when they were arguing over the kid when they suddenly realize they were still on the work floor and not alone. They had to actually do the play during the after-credits scene to keep up the lie. Scott may find himself coding a lame action game to maintain the cover story lol.
Or fallout 4, I played that game for hours on end and I had one NPC do the clock motion thing after killing it, Tried for hours to recreate it but never did! Or the deal where I “fell though” the the ground and floated down to my death… grrrr… clipping glitch…
Or the head spinning thing if you shot the neck off…
Last edited 2 years ago by Scarsdale
KBABZ
2 years ago
Y’know I was wondering how long it’d take for this to happen!
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Future Cop: L.A.P.ZEKE
All three simultaneously remember, oh, yeah, we run a business, too.
The unrealistic part of this is that running a business is super exhausting and there’s just no way they also have time to be superheroes.
Wasn’t the gps check bound to randomly fail at somenpoint anyway? I would not trust gps to reliably and constantly be accurate to a few meters (the size of the backroom). So one random jitter and boom…
…in a building….
Ok, so a comic about people with superpowers, sentient robots, and what have you… And you complain about GPS improbabilities?!?
😀
It’s reasonable to assume that things that exist in the real world function the same way in Omnitropolis.
I mean…on one hand you are 100% right. On the other hand, in comics, being very smart is kinda a superpower…tech just doesn’t go wrong in a smart person’s hands in a comic. It is one of the accepted tropes.
This is also a universe with sentient robots, so it’s not unreasonable to assume that tech in the A+D universe is at least slightly more advanced.
No it isnt, it’s a comic if it isn’t a specific plotpoint it will NEVER occur.
I bet at least half of us are geeks here.
So it is inevitable – we can readily accept superpowers, but not technical inaccuracies 😉
we will also happily discuss finer technical details of Star Trak transporter’s energy draw or maximum possible snap-per-hour of Thanos’ Gauntlet 😉
In light of how much wear and tear happens after just 2 snaps, forget “per-hour”.
A reliable GPS is less believable than superpowers.
Well, if your going there, GPS is a listen only protocol. There is no way to locate a pure GPS receiver. Things like phones tend to report their location, but they have to use WiFi or cellular to do so.
Since Zeke was contained in a single room it would of made more sense and would of been way more reliable would of been something simple like a “invisible fence” setup. My sister did that for her very large rottweiler, if he crossed the buried wire it would trigger a shock collar he wore. Same tech could of been used and hidden easily over the door.
For the love of all that is holy, it’s would/could “have,” not “of.”
Sorry to be that guy, but 3 times in one post… I almost had a stroke.
For the love of all that is holy, people saying “would of” are thinking of “would’ve” not “would have”.
So? Would’ve is a contraction of would have. Would of is just nonsense.
I’m from the Chicago/Gary area, it’s how we talk, sorry.
What you are hearing when your brain thinks “would of” is probably “would’ve” the contraction of would have. Grammar and spelling is somewhat less flexible than speech because it is less open to interpretation.
Can use Would’ve sounds the same but is grammatically correct
It’s not “how you talk,” it’s just incorrect. You may be using contractions, but that means you’re saying “would’ve,” not would of, because the latter means absolutely nothing.
Stay Far away from Newfoundland then.
https://encounternewfoundland.com/newfinese-101-words-and-phrases-youre-likely-to-hear-on-the-rock/
Local slang and dialect doesn’t magically make “would of” mean something. It doesn’t anywhere, including Newfoundland.
There’s a quote by a fantasy (or maybe sci-fi?) author that I’m struggling to find. They essentially said that, if your story contains horses and dragons, and you expect us to believe your dragons and all the specifics about them, then we’d better already believe your horses.
Despite Scott saying GPS, that doesn’t sound like GPS. GPS is globally positioned using satellites. This sounds more like using a Bluetooth triangulation or similar, using multiple beacons (which presumably they already had in the shop) to locate their range within a short distance. Much more reliable to a small margin of error, but requires beacons to be placed within a very short (~200ft for Bluetooth IIRC) distance.
Also, if you’re building something like that using an unreliable tech like GPS, you can also build in margins of error and redundancy checking.
I could believe GPS being more stable in Omnitropolis or Scott’s code filtering out that jitter, but the rest of the plan rubs me the wrong way.
GPS is completely passive, the device listens to the signal from multiple satellites and calculates its position from that. So no amount of beacons would receive any signal from Zeke.
That’s what I was saying from my experience. Sometimes my position is randomly on the other side of a street. Especially when Putin started the war it wasn’t very accurate (might be unrelated). But narrative imperative dictates that tat world’s GPS works well inside buildings.
It could be a two-factor GPS triangulator that doesn’t just reply on the GPS network since that has built in limits to its accuracy. they could be combining the GPS tracking with cell network and wifi pings like AirPods to get a much more accurate location on him.
Cyberpunk 2053, still in development, but maybe it delay for a few years..
Ethan could have said that it was just another Zachtronics game – all questions and arguments would have been invalidated that very instant.
Typo: “it’s range” –> “its range”
I’m not so sure, since “it” is being used as a pronoun, then the possessive form could be “it’s”, unlike referring to non-sentient objects “its”.
Reread it and it appears you are correct. Plus I am unable to edit my comment, so a second post is required for correction.
Pretty sure the “it” in that sentence is the GPS tracker, so “it” isn’t a pronoun. It’s admittedly ambiguous, but that seems like the more obvious interpretation to me.
“Its” the pronoun doesn’t have an apostrophe any more than “hi’s” or “her’s” does. Only time is when it’s a contraction of “it is”.
Should have said Star Citizen or EVE Online, that would have caused him to tune out the conversation.
Ooooooooooooh Right.
We run a store occasionally too
When did we last pay rent???
Yeah this reminds me of “Monsters, Inc.” when they were arguing over the kid when they suddenly realize they were still on the work floor and not alone. They had to actually do the play during the after-credits scene to keep up the lie. Scott may find himself coding a lame action game to maintain the cover story lol.
And he creates many memes with purposely unfinished animations and glitchy code, which launches him into the indie equivalent of Skyrim success.
LOL so true!
Or fallout 4, I played that game for hours on end and I had one NPC do the clock motion thing after killing it, Tried for hours to recreate it but never did! Or the deal where I “fell though” the the ground and floated down to my death… grrrr… clipping glitch…
Or the head spinning thing if you shot the neck off…
Y’know I was wondering how long it’d take for this to happen!