I think there’s context dependency for that
like motion aiming works great for Splatoon, but that’s not a game that regularly requires precise aiming
and person by person basis, stability aiming can also be a nightmare. mouse and joystick you can let go of, but if you got shakey hands during motion aiming then you’ll be wobbling all over the place
I still love motion aiming more than either of the other two tho, it feels the most intuitive to me
It doesn’t regularly require precise aiming if you’re at low ranks and don’t really know what you’re doing (essentially, any Splatoon comic that Tim’s drawn). Get higher than a C and you need to be able to aim fast, not to mention quickly react and respond faster than a stick will move you.
Yes there’s more issues if someone has a handicap, but by far “precision” isn’t the problem with gyro. Precision is HOW you aim with gyro. Stick gets it in the ballpark, gyro aims at their head.
ah, well I don’t play competitive at all so I guess that’s my experience talking
I’m also willing to bet that my specific sensitivity settings have an impact on it, and it’d feel more precise with some tweaking, but I don’t even know where I’d start to test out how fiddling with sensitivity would affect my gameplay
That’s simply not true. They’re gyro aiming and gyro aiming is always a super inaccurate mess that’s also in constant need of recalibration to how you’re holding the controller.
The IR pointer on the Wii Remote, now that was great for aiming.
For me, it was the Xbox360 that melted my stance on “Keyboard and Mouse only for FPS” (I only recently bought Darkwatch because, at the time, trying to play an FPS with a PS2 controller overrode any interest that I had in the game. I’m hoping that, when I get to it, the OG Xbox controllers handle well enough.) Controllers hit the right spot for me. As such, I’m willing to make an exception as well for Xbox. Yeah, as Serious Sam 4 pointed out to me, fine tuning a shot is a lot harder than with a keyboard/mouse. However,… Read more »
I disagree that it’s on par, but it’s a night and day difference from sticks and aim assist. If I can’t mouse-and-keyboard, I gyro-aim. If I can’t do either, I don’t do first or third person shooters.
Anyone who claims gyro is worse than stick, either doesn’t know how to set up their sensitivity, spent only long enough using it to realize that decades of practice in stick aim has an edge over two hours practice of gyro, or gets motion sick.
yep i remember when microsoft did a special event of top tier pc vs top tier console players… no matter who used what set up the ones with K+M would beat controller 100% of the time. even the console players beat pc players when they swapped rigs.
Mike
1 month ago
Good alt title for this: Triggered
Cuz its got me all sort of triggered right now. haha
“Gaslighting” is a phenomenon where someone is continuously told that they are remembering things wrong, until they end up always doubting their own memory. It is a tactic commonly used by abusers to make their victims dependent on them for what is true in their lives. The name comes from a film where the main character did this, and there were gas lights involved; I don’t remember how.
To add to this slightly, common usage these days associates it with almost any form of deception but the description above is the correct one. Lying, even about past events, isn’t inherently gaslighting – it’s the specific act we see here where the deceptive statements are accompanied by direct attacks on the victim’s belief in themselves. It’s the “Why would I make that up? You need to pay more attention” in this strip that makes it gaslighting – the implication that she’s infallible and he’s not only fallible but always the incorrect one. The movie was from the 40’s and… Read more »
We have four bulbs over our bathroom mirror. One tends to burn out more often. When the wife asks me to change it, once I do, I like to come out and mimic Picard’s “There… are… FOUR lights!”
So far she hasn’t responded “No, there are five lights.” Even though there is also a flourescent ceiling one and that would just make it an even more appropriate response. 😄
She won’t watch TNG with me. She finds the charcterization stiff and more specifically criticizes Data’s attempts to be more human as tiresome and predictable.
We can’t ALL marry a manic pixie dream nerd, you know. 😛 I don’t watch her mindless trash tv, either, but we’ve managed all these years nonetheless.
Tell her to give it a chance. When I began watching TNG (which was by season 3, I think) I found Data unbearable. Not only for what your wife says but also because I saw him as a blatant Data rip-off. But my then boyfriend (current husband) convinced me to try and watch more than one chapter or two. I am now more fan than he is.
Yeah, I’d get a polite but firm “Thanks but no thanks.” I’m lucky enough she’ll play some modern board games with me even if it is just the simple stuff like Azul, Carcassonne, or Splendor. The problem is that I play competitively and eventually just get too good for her at most of them, then she doesn’t want to play. Personality difference, I guess; my dad mercilessly crushed me at cribbage and chess, but that just made me want to play MORE to beat him. If we share a show it’s usually an instance of what South Park called “Informative… Read more »
Kinda surprised the “I said right” when she factually said left isn’t the triggering point for Ethan. No, really, I really am it wasn’t, considering his character.
Memory is a fickle thing, and that is a big part of how gaslighting works. It’s all about instilling and manipulating self-doubt.
We, as the 4th wall, have an objective recording of the whole conversation, Ethan in panels 3 and 4 has only his memory. So the question is how well does he trust himself and his memory.
However, belittling him in public about learning a game, which really should be his element, should hopefully start triggering his BS detector.
Seriously… This is THE dude that created ‘wintereenmas'(?) for the gaming community in his universe! He may not be the best at all games, but he knows enough to know better than this level of treatment implies.
Prinny
1 month ago
Ooh, I hate this woman so much… she’s the perfect level of *mundane* evil that gets under my skin more than most ‘proper’ villains.
I rather hope we see karmic justice happen at some point.
(Though, it could be an interesting decision to intentionally *not* give the viewers any kind of catharsis…)
In what way? Nicole is pretty much the opposite of Troll style. Troll being affliated with this is about as likely as Ethan turning out to be the Troll himself.
(Ethan having to deal with) Troll escape could become some escalating factor in this ongoing train wreck though.
Scarymother
1 month ago
He’s certainly right about controllers and FPS games… it is just wrong. A pale imitation.
Quinn
1 month ago
Gaslighting level, Master.
JozMk.II
1 month ago
Come on, Ethan, put the pieces together. There’s plenty of them and extra to assemble a clear, ugly picture here.
Wesley Riot
1 month ago
Blue shirt white tee!!
Cmd1095
1 month ago
Well up until now everything she was saying and doing was suspicious but not over the line where benefit of the doubt stopped being possible. But this definitely puts her over that edge and into get out of there territory
Paula
1 month ago
Nope. Blatant, direct gaslighting. Too much.
Rune
1 month ago
Jokes on you. I use a controller for FPS when i play them on my PC
Is it just me or does anyone else feel actually very physically uncomfortable when she’s being toxic and manipulative? No other comic or book has made me feel this god damn uncomfortable before.
I feel this because I have encountered a few women that were that toxic and gaslight the men they went out with (they weren’t gamers). I dated one that was like that but pretty much left her after the second date. Had a friend also go out with a girl like that and she almost caused our friendship to permanently end but his family got through to him and he apologized and we moved past it. Also have a coworker married to a woman like that as well and we saw her gaslight her husband right in front of us.
It’s because it’s more relatable than traditional “villainy”. Most villains do evil things like threaten peoples lives, which IS evil but is not something we deal with in regular life. People who lie and then deny it, gaslighting, manipulation. Those things are pretty real for a lot of people, more so these days, and we realize it. So when a fictional character uses an emotional tactic that we have dealt with in real life it hits harder. Case in point: Mother Goethel from Tangled gets a lot more hate than many other people because her gaslighting of Rapunzel was very… Read more »
Crestlinger
1 month ago
Can we have Scott get fourth wall powers so he can bash this one with an ACME anvil of EVIDENCE?
Finvair
1 month ago
Oh. So she’s THAT kind of red flag, as well? Yikes.
Acorr
1 month ago
I know art as a medium should also provoke negative feelings but this entire thing makes me so uncomfortable that I don’t know if I want to keep reading. Especially since it is one page of anxiety at a time
You can always come back in a month or so to see if Tim’s swapped back to Starcaster or gaming jokes.
Rauri
1 month ago
A new superhero arrives:
“Hey, I’m Clip.”
-What do you do?
“I can capture and replay any moment of reality as it occurred. Not great at fighting but I’m indispensable for court cases.”
Ethan would be forbidden to be friends with them.
Mailar
1 month ago
i suspect it’s going to be calling Ethan a ‘slow learner’ when it comes to video games that is the true wake-up call.
the crowned king of wintereenmas is a lot of things, but a slow learner in games he is not.
Zequeins
1 month ago
Unfortunately Ethan lacks the 4th wall breaking power of Deadpool. Upon which he could easily say, “No, you said LEFT. See top left panel, right there.”
Blue
1 month ago
Nope still don’t like her.
Huecuva
1 month ago
She’s insufferable.
Dragma
1 month ago
And incomes the gaslighting. I think Eathon is starting to have some doubts.
Greevar
1 month ago
Gross, the whole scenario.
Mr_Meng
1 month ago
It’s always hilarious when gamers get their jimmies rustled over inconsequential stuff like playing a FPS with a controller and I say that as a gamer who plays FPS games on both their PC and consoles with a controller.
Dennis
1 month ago
When is she being killed off the show?
I don’t know what I hate more – her or console FPS
Aeg
1 month ago
These comics do bad things for my blood pressure.
Daniel
1 month ago
Fake your death by real death, Ethan
Cypher
1 month ago
I feel like this is a glorified Mel Brooks joke. Left! No, your other Left!
Dorander
1 month ago
So uh, any chance the other players would’ve picked up the rest of the conversation and get to chime in? This situation looks quite voice activated or continuous open mic to me.
Number51x
1 month ago
Is her super villain reveal name going to be “The Red Flag” or something? JFC. It’s just one after another out of the abuser playbook.
Baal
1 month ago
D-Pad has a new Nemesis! Move over Troll, you’re no match for… Red Flag!
Del Cox
1 month ago
…Annnd on to gaslighting…
AngryLittleMan
1 month ago
To quote a famous Star Wars quote “I have a bad feeling about this.”
And boy there are more red flags in this single strip than the uniforms the red wings wear.
Shona-SoF
1 month ago
I know Ethan’s trying, but he _has_ to see what’s happening by now
Seldrick
1 month ago
Her villain name will 100% be The Gaslighter
JJBBSS
1 month ago
So many red flags it must be a rally of the Communist Party.
notme
30 days ago
Jesus… no… can we not do this storyline, this is giving me PTSD
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FPS with a controller is a crime against humanity and should be punished by life in DLC-hell.
I hold that Nintendo’s joy cons are an exception to this rule. Their motion control is about on par with a mouse for aiming.
Cant agree with that one. If it wasn’t for aim assist, no one on a console could ever cross platform a first person shooter.
I think there’s context dependency for that
like motion aiming works great for Splatoon, but that’s not a game that regularly requires precise aiming
and person by person basis, stability aiming can also be a nightmare. mouse and joystick you can let go of, but if you got shakey hands during motion aiming then you’ll be wobbling all over the place
I still love motion aiming more than either of the other two tho, it feels the most intuitive to me
It doesn’t regularly require precise aiming if you’re at low ranks and don’t really know what you’re doing (essentially, any Splatoon comic that Tim’s drawn). Get higher than a C and you need to be able to aim fast, not to mention quickly react and respond faster than a stick will move you.
Yes there’s more issues if someone has a handicap, but by far “precision” isn’t the problem with gyro. Precision is HOW you aim with gyro. Stick gets it in the ballpark, gyro aims at their head.
ah, well I don’t play competitive at all so I guess that’s my experience talking
I’m also willing to bet that my specific sensitivity settings have an impact on it, and it’d feel more precise with some tweaking, but I don’t even know where I’d start to test out how fiddling with sensitivity would affect my gameplay
That’s simply not true. They’re gyro aiming and gyro aiming is always a super inaccurate mess that’s also in constant need of recalibration to how you’re holding the controller.
The IR pointer on the Wii Remote, now that was great for aiming.
For me, it was the Xbox360 that melted my stance on “Keyboard and Mouse only for FPS” (I only recently bought Darkwatch because, at the time, trying to play an FPS with a PS2 controller overrode any interest that I had in the game. I’m hoping that, when I get to it, the OG Xbox controllers handle well enough.) Controllers hit the right spot for me. As such, I’m willing to make an exception as well for Xbox. Yeah, as Serious Sam 4 pointed out to me, fine tuning a shot is a lot harder than with a keyboard/mouse. However,… Read more »
I disagree that it’s on par, but it’s a night and day difference from sticks and aim assist. If I can’t mouse-and-keyboard, I gyro-aim. If I can’t do either, I don’t do first or third person shooters.
Anyone who claims gyro is worse than stick, either doesn’t know how to set up their sensitivity, spent only long enough using it to realize that decades of practice in stick aim has an edge over two hours practice of gyro, or gets motion sick.
I never could grasp the ability to game with a mouse and keyboard.
yep i remember when microsoft did a special event of top tier pc vs top tier console players… no matter who used what set up the ones with K+M would beat controller 100% of the time. even the console players beat pc players when they swapped rigs.
Good alt title for this: Triggered
Cuz its got me all sort of triggered right now. haha
And she’s gaslighting him now…
She started gaslighting him from the beginning lmao
I guess this is 1 step farther in the, how to gaslight.
What does this even mean?
“Gaslighting” is a phenomenon where someone is continuously told that they are remembering things wrong, until they end up always doubting their own memory. It is a tactic commonly used by abusers to make their victims dependent on them for what is true in their lives. The name comes from a film where the main character did this, and there were gas lights involved; I don’t remember how.
To add to this slightly, common usage these days associates it with almost any form of deception but the description above is the correct one. Lying, even about past events, isn’t inherently gaslighting – it’s the specific act we see here where the deceptive statements are accompanied by direct attacks on the victim’s belief in themselves. It’s the “Why would I make that up? You need to pay more attention” in this strip that makes it gaslighting – the implication that she’s infallible and he’s not only fallible but always the incorrect one. The movie was from the 40’s and… Read more »
That’s not what gaslighting is and it has nothing to do with the 1944 mystery movie Gaslight.
Somebody didn’t get the joke.
Gotta include “Pretty sure you’re remembering the movie wrong, you always get crazy over things like this”
yeah, you.
Now?
Tim…who hurt you?
Seems like some demons have to be let out every xx years 😀
It’s all manipulation tactics from r/relationship_advice condensed into a comic strip.
More importantly, Tim, why do you keep hurting us?
More more importantly, Tim, when’s she going to get hurt?
This story arc is for that friend who won’t listen to their friends trying to warn them.
Hmm the Trekker nerd in me can’t help but make a joke about if there are four lights or five…
We have four bulbs over our bathroom mirror. One tends to burn out more often. When the wife asks me to change it, once I do, I like to come out and mimic Picard’s “There… are… FOUR lights!”
So far she hasn’t responded “No, there are five lights.” Even though there is also a flourescent ceiling one and that would just make it an even more appropriate response. 😄
Next time you have to replacer that bulb, you should watch that episode with her to see if she gets the joke ^^
She won’t watch TNG with me. She finds the charcterization stiff and more specifically criticizes Data’s attempts to be more human as tiresome and predictable.
We can’t ALL marry a manic pixie dream nerd, you know. 😛 I don’t watch her mindless trash tv, either, but we’ve managed all these years nonetheless.
Tell her to give it a chance. When I began watching TNG (which was by season 3, I think) I found Data unbearable. Not only for what your wife says but also because I saw him as a blatant Data rip-off. But my then boyfriend (current husband) convinced me to try and watch more than one chapter or two. I am now more fan than he is.
You saw Data as a…Data rip-off? You saw him as a rip-off of himself?
I am pretty sure Paula meant “Spock”
Yeah, I’d get a polite but firm “Thanks but no thanks.” I’m lucky enough she’ll play some modern board games with me even if it is just the simple stuff like Azul, Carcassonne, or Splendor. The problem is that I play competitively and eventually just get too good for her at most of them, then she doesn’t want to play. Personality difference, I guess; my dad mercilessly crushed me at cribbage and chess, but that just made me want to play MORE to beat him. If we share a show it’s usually an instance of what South Park called “Informative… Read more »
Is there four gaslights or five?
Kinda surprised the “I said right” when she factually said left isn’t the triggering point for Ethan. No, really, I really am it wasn’t, considering his character.
honestly it might be, he keeps getting cut off before he can say anything here
He is trying to say something, he just keeps getting cut off
Memory is a fickle thing, and that is a big part of how gaslighting works. It’s all about instilling and manipulating self-doubt.
We, as the 4th wall, have an objective recording of the whole conversation, Ethan in panels 3 and 4 has only his memory. So the question is how well does he trust himself and his memory.
However, belittling him in public about learning a game, which really should be his element, should hopefully start triggering his BS detector.
Seriously… This is THE dude that created ‘wintereenmas'(?) for the gaming community in his universe! He may not be the best at all games, but he knows enough to know better than this level of treatment implies.
Ooh, I hate this woman so much… she’s the perfect level of *mundane* evil that gets under my skin more than most ‘proper’ villains.
I rather hope we see karmic justice happen at some point.
(Though, it could be an interesting decision to intentionally *not* give the viewers any kind of catharsis…)
Escalation incomming!!!!
Girlboss, gatekeep, gaslight.
you put those in reverse order on purpose, didn’t you?
I don’t think that “Bossgirl, Keepgate, Lightgas” would be fitting better..
I put them in the order she started using them in, so yes.
Goddamn, you don´t have to put ALL the red flags into one character, you know?
Maybe that’s her super power
Yeah, I was starting to think the same. Tim, she is too much wrong. No way someone’s that bad (I hope)
Okay. Someone needs to put this See U Next Tuesday in her place FAST. Gaslighting on top of everything else…
The other people had to have heard that, right? That she said left. I wonder what they think.
“if we say she is wrong she can break us like a stick…better shut up”
But if they are playing with her friends groups, as happen in the male counterpart, will laugh “the joke”
I’ve said this before, but she’s so obviously over the top toxic I can’t see how anyone could miss it.
The Troll escaped when? It looks like Chekov’s gun.
In what way? Nicole is pretty much the opposite of Troll style. Troll being affliated with this is about as likely as Ethan turning out to be the Troll himself.
(Ethan having to deal with) Troll escape could become some escalating factor in this ongoing train wreck though.
He’s certainly right about controllers and FPS games… it is just wrong. A pale imitation.
Gaslighting level, Master.
Come on, Ethan, put the pieces together. There’s plenty of them and extra to assemble a clear, ugly picture here.
Blue shirt white tee!!
Well up until now everything she was saying and doing was suspicious but not over the line where benefit of the doubt stopped being possible. But this definitely puts her over that edge and into get out of there territory
Nope. Blatant, direct gaslighting. Too much.
Jokes on you. I use a controller for FPS when i play them on my PC
Blasphemy! An unforgivable sin! Burn the heretic!
Is it just me or does anyone else feel actually very physically uncomfortable when she’s being toxic and manipulative? No other comic or book has made me feel this god damn uncomfortable before.
It makes me sick
I feel this because I have encountered a few women that were that toxic and gaslight the men they went out with (they weren’t gamers). I dated one that was like that but pretty much left her after the second date. Had a friend also go out with a girl like that and she almost caused our friendship to permanently end but his family got through to him and he apologized and we moved past it. Also have a coworker married to a woman like that as well and we saw her gaslight her husband right in front of us.
It’s because it’s more relatable than traditional “villainy”. Most villains do evil things like threaten peoples lives, which IS evil but is not something we deal with in regular life. People who lie and then deny it, gaslighting, manipulation. Those things are pretty real for a lot of people, more so these days, and we realize it. So when a fictional character uses an emotional tactic that we have dealt with in real life it hits harder. Case in point: Mother Goethel from Tangled gets a lot more hate than many other people because her gaslighting of Rapunzel was very… Read more »
Can we have Scott get fourth wall powers so he can bash this one with an ACME anvil of EVIDENCE?
Oh. So she’s THAT kind of red flag, as well? Yikes.
I know art as a medium should also provoke negative feelings but this entire thing makes me so uncomfortable that I don’t know if I want to keep reading. Especially since it is one page of anxiety at a time
You can always come back in a month or so to see if Tim’s swapped back to Starcaster or gaming jokes.
A new superhero arrives:
“Hey, I’m Clip.”
-What do you do?
“I can capture and replay any moment of reality as it occurred. Not great at fighting but I’m indispensable for court cases.”
Ethan would be forbidden to be friends with them.
i suspect it’s going to be calling Ethan a ‘slow learner’ when it comes to video games that is the true wake-up call.
the crowned king of wintereenmas is a lot of things, but a slow learner in games he is not.
Unfortunately Ethan lacks the 4th wall breaking power of Deadpool. Upon which he could easily say, “No, you said LEFT. See top left panel, right there.”
Nope still don’t like her.
She’s insufferable.
And incomes the gaslighting. I think Eathon is starting to have some doubts.
Gross, the whole scenario.
It’s always hilarious when gamers get their jimmies rustled over inconsequential stuff like playing a FPS with a controller and I say that as a gamer who plays FPS games on both their PC and consoles with a controller.
When is she being killed off the show?
I don’t know what I hate more – her or console FPS
These comics do bad things for my blood pressure.
Fake your death by real death, Ethan
I feel like this is a glorified Mel Brooks joke. Left! No, your other Left!
So uh, any chance the other players would’ve picked up the rest of the conversation and get to chime in? This situation looks quite voice activated or continuous open mic to me.
Is her super villain reveal name going to be “The Red Flag” or something? JFC. It’s just one after another out of the abuser playbook.
D-Pad has a new Nemesis! Move over Troll, you’re no match for… Red Flag!
…Annnd on to gaslighting…
To quote a famous Star Wars quote “I have a bad feeling about this.”
And boy there are more red flags in this single strip than the uniforms the red wings wear.
I know Ethan’s trying, but he _has_ to see what’s happening by now
Her villain name will 100% be The Gaslighter
So many red flags it must be a rally of the Communist Party.
Jesus… no… can we not do this storyline, this is giving me PTSD