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April 6, 2022 by Tim

A new Ron Gilbert Monkey Island was definitely not on my list of things to expect in 2022, but here we are.

I have some very fond childhood memories of the first Monkey Island, and that sort of thing can very easily lend itself to an over-abundance of hype. The idea that “Yes, we’re finally getting more of that thing I loved!”

But there’s no way to know that; even with the original team back together, it’s been thirty years… that’s a lot of built-up nostalgia to try and recapture/equal/surpass, which is probably not a realistic ask of any developer. So I have to keep reminding my brain to try and temper the expectations.


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Bwauder
Bwauder
7 months ago

Unfortunately I pretty much fall in the red camp, despite all the best intentions, time + new developments + personal life changes in the developers + market demands mean that the result will likely be a somewhat random blend of original and new technology/ideas that may not mesh.
I still have fun memories of the old game, and teeter with you on the top of the pole but pragmatism means I’ll be waiting and reading alot of reviews before $ are spent.

NoName
NoName
7 months ago
Reply to  Bwauder

I disagree. Most of you have not played their recent games: Thimbleweed Part 1 & 2.
It has proven to still work, be awesome and has the same flair like before (sans that it’s not a Threepwood Theme)

Whatever
Whatever
7 months ago

First? 🤔

Whatever
Whatever
7 months ago
Reply to  Whatever

tough crowd.

Kaogen
Kaogen
7 months ago
Reply to  Whatever

Crowd that isn’t 12 years old.

Timmeh
Timmeh
7 months ago
Reply to  Whatever

how is this a thing still… The internet has been around for decades at this point. Just… please stop…

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
7 months ago
Reply to  Whatever

I just don’t get people who jump on and be the literal first comment that anyone sees on a strip… then… say absolutely nothing.

Make us chuckle. Make us think. Point out something interesting or insightful or strike up a conversation or debate or literally do anything other than shout your place in line, then act surprised that people dislike it.

Whatever
Whatever
7 months ago
Reply to  Eldest Gruff

lol only posted it because I knew it was the one thing you should never write on this forum. Oh well, at least we know the dislike counter works. 😅

Neb
Neb
7 months ago
Reply to  Whatever

No one has a sense of humor these days. So uptight and literal about everything.

Murray
Murray
7 months ago

Finally, some good news!

Soag
Soag
7 months ago

Who knows, there’s always a chance for Psychonauts 2 2.0 😉

foducool
foducool
7 months ago

pretty sure the creative minds who made the first one are long gone and scattered, plus with the woke trend, the humour that should be here will certainly be downplayed a lot, but we’ll see

leduk
leduk
7 months ago
Reply to  foducool

the “anti-woke” internet crew is pathetic.

robloughrey
robloughrey
7 months ago
Reply to  leduk

Right, why in world would want to be telling people that you NEED to be able to call them offensive names in order to be happy?

Nick F
Nick F
7 months ago
Reply to  robloughrey

The issue is the term gets caught up in the extreme zealots who go out of their way to be offended by everything.

As a result, everything is offensive to at least somebody, and as long as that somebody is loud enough (because the internet provides unlimited reach), they get to ruin it for everyone else.

A recent example of not being able to please everybody:

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/02/peter-dinklage-snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarfs-backlash-little-people-1234695983/

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
7 months ago
Reply to  Nick F

Actually, I think this is a good example of modern-day sensibilities ‘ruining’ something that was already a little dehumanizing to begin with. People with dwarfism have had to deal with stereotypes for ages. Snow White is part of our cultural heritage, and has literally been the source of many of the stereotypes that hurt this group to this day. I don’t fault Dinklage at all for not wanting to be a part of the film, nor for speaking his mind about it, nor for Indiewire writing about it. What is Dinklage supposed to do, lie? That doesn’t make him a… Read more »

Last edited 7 months ago by Eldest Gruff
Dodgy
Dodgy
7 months ago
Reply to  leduk

Trump once said “everything that’s woke goes to shit” and it’s probably the only thing he and I agree on.

HonoredMule
HonoredMule
7 months ago
Reply to  foducool

Fun fact: humor is actually not intrinsically tied to discrimination and abuse.

Timmeh
Timmeh
7 months ago
Reply to  HonoredMule

Wait what??? … oh right, I already knew that…

DanVzare
DanVzare
7 months ago
Reply to  HonoredMule

That’s true. But you’ve got to admit, that type of humour is pretty damn funny, and is a favourite of a lot of people, especially those who grew up in the 90s when that type of humour was all the rage.

But I guess times change.
It’ll swing back around eventually.
I mean, a lot of humour in the 90s wouldn’t have been considered acceptable in the 50s, so it’s not the first time humour has been limited in such a fashion. Just give it time. 🙂

CBL
CBL
7 months ago
Reply to  DanVzare

Lmao watch me not admit that

Timmeh
Timmeh
7 months ago
Reply to  DanVzare

here is the thing. Abuse is only funny and all the rage for two reasons. Dark humor of those who deal with it as a coping mechanism ad those who are the abusers.

Dodgy
Dodgy
7 months ago
Reply to  HonoredMule

It’s tied to controversy. Yet these days everyone takes everything way too seriously and considers everthing an attack on another person.

Paul
Paul
7 months ago

“You fool! You’ve given cheese to a lactose-intolerant volcano god!”

Honestly, though, this *should* be amazing.

SpeCter
SpeCter
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Isn’t that quote from the third one which was actually made without the original crew?(not that I really care the third one was my favorite)

Last edited 7 months ago by SpeCter
Michael Delaney
Michael Delaney
7 months ago

The base of the stick is a bunch of executive directors and publishers hacking at the stick with axes shouting microtransactions, nft, brand deals, merchandising, open world battlegrounds, epic store exclusive and every other cursed word in games development.

ExWuschel
ExWuschel
7 months ago

The main difference will be: We’re not as young as we once were. I loved the Monkey Island games 1+2 as a kid, but when I replayed the Special Editions later, it was quite a different experience. Still great games, but that magic feeling wasn’t there. Still looking forward to this new game, Ron Gilbert is still great (Thimbleweed Park was totally underrated, and it showed his mastery).

SpeCter
SpeCter
7 months ago
Reply to  ExWuschel

I think the main problem I had with the special editions wasn’t really about my age or that the magic wasn’t there. I loved to play them again but like with all Point&Click adventures they had no replay value because I know the story, jokes and puzzles already. If I could I would erase my knowledge about them over and over just to enjoy them properly again 😀

Scortch
Scortch
7 months ago

It could be good. When two point hospital came out I was also cautiously hopeful, and the game played like a true sequel to the original, owing largely to it being made by the original creators. Have hope that this will be done right as well.

Pulse
Pulse
7 months ago

lets face it, your brains about to do a stripper spin down that post and you pray it lands in the green

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
7 months ago

Wait, what?

This better not be a belated April Fools, Tim, or I swear to God I’ll… uh… well, there’s not a whole lot I can do, really.

The Monkey Island series was a riot, and I can’t wait to jump back in!

Last edited 7 months ago by Eldest Gruff
Garth
Garth
7 months ago
Reply to  Eldest Gruff

If I ever get to make another Monkey Island, I’m going to announce it on April 1st.

— Ron Gilbert (@grumpygamer) September 19, 2013

https://www.polygon.com/gaming/23010107/return-to-monkey-island-release-2022

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
7 months ago
Reply to  Garth

Well, as long as it’s priced at $19.99. I knew a guy once who told me to never spend more than twenty bucks on a computer game.

evilleet
evilleet
7 months ago

I never really understood the hype about monkey island to be honest.
It never was my style of game, but when i did try it. It was “okay” at best.
At the time when i tried it, i was much more into CnC and real time strategy games though.

GraySkye
GraySkye
7 months ago
Reply to  evilleet

Same here. My mates mostly love the series but I never really saw the appeal.

ShonaSoF
ShonaSoF
7 months ago
Reply to  evilleet

Nothing appeals to everyone. I loved C&C AND Monkey Island. But i never got into Duke 3D.

lechuckGL
lechuckGL
7 months ago
Reply to  evilleet

Because it basically set the bases for all graphic adventures games to come. Of course there were other games before, but MI was the one that defined the rules for good game design for any game of that type.
Plus: great story, funny characters, witty writing, superb graphics & music.

But graphic adventures is a very niche market, and there are sub-niches within as well, especially in the good old days where without access to any guides or hints it could take months to finish a game. And once you finish there is no real replay value.

Âmesang
Âmesang
7 months ago

I’m still holding out for a sequel to “Loom.” ='(

robloughrey
robloughrey
7 months ago
Reply to  Âmesang

I’d love a classic single player new Ultima entry.

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
7 months ago
Reply to  Âmesang

LOOM? What is LOOM? Tell me about LOOM! And while you’re at it, what’s this GRIM FANDANGO I keep hearing about?

robloughrey
robloughrey
7 months ago
Reply to  Eldest Gruff

More Infocom perhaps? I still think A Mind Forever Voyaging was some of the best worldbuilding ever done in gaming.

Pedro Silva
Pedro Silva
7 months ago

“My name’s Guybrush Threepwood and I want to be a pirate!”

I still remember reading these pixelated words for the first time… It was the start of my love for point-and-click adventures.

Your comic is 100% right on the money! I want to be excited, but I fear the excitement! 😀

Meatballs21
Meatballs21
7 months ago

There is also a new Little Big Adventure (aka Relentless: Twinsen’s Adventure) in the works, running the same risk.

WereCatf
WereCatf
7 months ago
Reply to  Meatballs21

Wait, WHAT?! I DID NOT KNOW THAT!

Jesus Christ, first a new Monkey Island-game and then new a LBA: I have no idea how to keep myself together long enough for the games to come out!

Meatballs21
Meatballs21
7 months ago
Reply to  WereCatf

If you can hold out long enough, they’re going to fix up the old games to work better on modern systems, too. Soon you can relive the nightmare that was the jetpack infiltration mission.

Cicgnar
Cicgnar
7 months ago

Also, apparently, a Gobliiins sequel too. Point’n’click adventures making a comeback would sound like a dream come true to me; and to be fair, games like the Dark Chapters anthology and Until Dawn helped prepare the ground with their “extremely limited” gameplay.

Cicgnar
Cicgnar
7 months ago
Reply to  Cicgnar

*Dark Pictures*

Daniel Pereira
Daniel Pereira
7 months ago

While I do believe they’ll make a good game, I’m not sure I’ll like it as much. Can you honestly say you are still the same person you were 30 years ago?

Both us and the creators are very different people today. We might no longer have the same tastes, or the same opinions on what makes a good story or gameplay. And that is fine… I only hope that they can put out something they can be proud of, and not get caught by the BS tactics today’s publishers are so fond of.

Dagroth
Dagroth
7 months ago
Reply to  Daniel Pereira

I still like some games that I played as a kid, so… sort of? At least enough to give it a shot.

Last edited 7 months ago by Dagroth
lechuckGL
lechuckGL
7 months ago

Tales of Monkey Island already involved Ron Gilbert and also Steve Purcell and it was a good game. I am very confident about this one.

Nameless Minion
Nameless Minion
7 months ago

Two words – Broken Age. Yes I know it’s a different team but for every Bloodstained there are way more Mighty No 9s. So yeah, I’m going to wait and see.

Leon
Leon
7 months ago

Can I say that Tim’s moustache makes him look like the URS guy from Pokemon Ultra Moon?

Rex Vivat
Rex Vivat
7 months ago

I think the fact that one of those “extremes” is actually completely realistic, and the other is just sunshine and rainbows, says it all.

omg omg
omg omg
7 months ago

Hey, Tim ¿Do you actually have that moustache? I know the second panel is supposed to be the important part of this comic page, but… that moustache, it is Epic!
On the other hand, I’m already dead and cold inside, so I would choose the red side.

GUNnibal
GUNnibal
7 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Don’t take this the wrong way, but you’d make a convincing movie villain.
“No, Mr Bond, I expect you to DIE” [twirls mustache]

FITCamaro
FITCamaro
7 months ago
Reply to  GUNnibal

Tim should audition for Goldface in the upcoming blockbuster Threat Level Midnight

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
7 months ago
Reply to  GUNnibal

I think the name for that particular style of handlebar moustache is “El Bandito.”

robloughrey
robloughrey
7 months ago
Reply to  GUNnibal

“Dad, the other kids don’t want to come over for a sleepover. They say you’re going to throw them in with the sharks…”

omg omg
omg omg
7 months ago
Reply to  Tim

AWESOME!!!! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

Kaitensatsuma
Kaitensatsuma
7 months ago

I’m looking forward to it. I’m getting “Psychonauts 2” vibes where it will deliver on 90% of what we want but between the amount of time since the initial releases and now, and also the slightly higher bar perhaps set by Telltale Games (In some senses) it will still be good but not Mind Blowing but it will scratch the right itches.

Last edited 7 months ago by Kaitensatsuma
Henchman Twenty1
Henchman Twenty1
7 months ago

I tend to lean towards the right on this issue due to way too many daggers in my nostalgia heart, but there have been a few pleasant surprises now and then. Wasteland 2 for example.

Rolando
Rolando
7 months ago

The first, was the game that got me for good into gaming and computers as a kid. Back when it was still pretty new. It blew my mind.

Life-changing, considering I’ve been an IT guy for 25 years.

I’m willing to believe. I’m ok with it not being “perfect.” And I understand it shouldn’t try to cater to impossibly high expectations.

Last edited 7 months ago by Rolando
Garth
Garth
7 months ago

“…never make another monkey island unless…”

That quote is a reference to a manifesto Gilbert wrote in 2013 about his dreams of creating another Monkey Island game. The post made clear that Monkey Island would never officially return unless Gilbert owned the series’ IP. “I’ve spent too much of my life creating and making things other people own,” Gilbert wrote. “Not only would I allow you to make Monkey Island fan games, but I would encourage it.”

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/04/ron-gilbert-confirms-a-new-monkey-island-adventure-game-coming-in-2022/

Piro
Piro
7 months ago

I’m not saying the Final Fantasy 7 remake is perfect. But this is where I was for that and I’ve been quite happy with it so far. So hopefully Monkey Island turns out the same.

Timmeh
Timmeh
7 months ago

Here is the question. My wife and kids never played the originals. (duh on the kids front) But, would I be ableto just jump into this one with my family? Would THEY enjoy it too, because I have wanted to share this magic with them so much.

GlitcherGirl
GlitcherGirl
7 months ago

I still have all the originals. Every time I see an article with “What game would you want to see remade” I say Monkey Island, but now I’m on that pole too.

Geez, hold your breath for 10 minutes…..

Greevar
Greevar
7 months ago

I will resign to expect it to be utter trash. That way, if it’s awesome at release, it will be a pleasant surprise! If it’s trash, it won’t hurt.

DanVzare
DanVzare
7 months ago

When I first played Thimbleweed Park, I fell into the red zone. After leaving it alone for a few months and playing it again with a fresh perspective, I quickly entered the green zone. It’s all about avoiding that damn hype. The game will probably be as good as the first two Monkey Islands. No better and no worse. So you just need to take off those rose-tinted glasses and keep that perspective in mind. It’ll probably be a great game. But people will likely be comparing it to the rose-tinted games in their heads, rather than the actual games… Read more »

ShonaSoF
ShonaSoF
7 months ago

Accept that NOTHING will live up to the expectations, and you’ll be in a much better position to enjoy what _is_ offered.

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 months ago

Look behind you, a three-headed monkey!

Jamil
Jamil
7 months ago

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
YOU FIGHT LIKE A COW!

Mr_Meng
Mr_Meng
7 months ago

I’ve personally enjoyed all the Monkey Island games(even Escape from Monkey Island) so I’m firmly in the green camp although I doubt it’ll cure cancer. Boredom absolutely but not cancer.

Pyre
Pyre
7 months ago

Hey, you remember when Shenmue 3 happened?

I’ll just leave that there because, for better or worse, that’s pretty much what this is going to be as well.

Toke
Toke
7 months ago

That’s exactly how I felt when the newest Matrix movie was announced.

Ben
Ben
7 months ago

Assume this’ll be like Psychonauts 2: It will show the age of its genre, but still be remind you of the good times that genre once delivered. It’ll give you a nostalgic thrill, alongside a quiet, sollemn reminder that moving on to new things was the right thing for the industry (and you) to do.

k.a.e.b.
k.a.e.b.
7 months ago

IMO, Revolution Software did well with their returns to Broken Sword and Beneath a Steel Sky.

Stay (realistically) optimistic.

SpinelesS
SpinelesS
7 months ago

I do not have high hopes. The internet killed the point and click adventure game.
Kids these days have no idea what it’s like to be stuck on a puzzle for weeks or months because they can just google the answer.

Xolodno
Xolodno
7 months ago

Remember, the person who gave us Star Wars also created the prequels.

NoName
NoName
7 months ago

Tim, question: have you not played Thimbleweed Park 1 & 2? You do know who was behind this, I am sure? If not, do it. Then re-watch the Teaser and just go with “OH BOI MY BNODY IS READY!”

Last edited 7 months ago by NoName
raven0ak
raven0ak
7 months ago

I kinda fall to red camp; with simple question of: “why continue series now, after so many decades of keeping it in abyss” and answer to it leads mostly into deep red side