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Console War, p91

July 15, 2022 by Tim

Look, a good idea is a good idea, so I’d rather a company be late to the party with the good idea than not arrive at all out of stubbornness. Sony has seemed rather late to the party an awful lot lately, though.

I still maintain that the Xbox Gamepass is one of the best deals in gaming- for the price, the access to games is an awesome value, and more times than I can count I’ve been thinking about buying a game only to look and find “oh, it’s free on GamePass.” I think it’s awesome that Sony is finally going to try and mirror that with Playstation Plus.

They’re also finally, kind of, sort of, maybe getting on board with cross-platform multiplayer, though it is still a case-by-case basis.

Now they’ve suddenly just discovered ‘loyalty programs’ too, apparently. That’s fine, those are generally pretty decent for the consumer as well. They seem to be working for literally every one of Sony’s competitors, so why not.


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Pal87
Pal87
26 days ago

First.

Donate a dollar to a worthy charity along with every downvote.

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
26 days ago
Reply to  Pal87

… I don’t think I’ve ever had an angrier upvote.

Khaisz
Khaisz
26 days ago
Reply to  Eldest Gruff

But can we keep it at 0 so they doesn’t get the satsification of either getting upvotes or downvotes?

robloughrey
robloughrey
26 days ago
Reply to  Khaisz

I love this guys “Firsts” I just imagine him putting off his life repeatedly mashing F5 on the keyboard muttering “come on… come on….”

Bwauder
Bwauder
26 days ago
Reply to  Pal87

Unless you donate directly to a community based food bank or similar there are no worthy charities, all of them chew up 80-95% of donations in admin fees, payoffs or advertising.

Will Belden
Will Belden
26 days ago
Reply to  Bwauder

This really isn’t 100% accurate. There are many sites out there that analyze the information on 501c3 non-profits. They are required to publicly disclose their budget allocations. This is one watchdog example: https://www.charitywatch.org/top-rated-charities

There are many good charities that do good work. Yes, a food pantry is an excellent choice, as you aren’t dealing in cash. You can also donate your time, which is very valuable, too.

Jacob
Jacob
26 days ago
Reply to  Will Belden

Will, thanks for the list. To Bwauder’s point, if I’ve heard of a charity, it was largely due to marketing and therefore is not on CharityWatch’s top list. At least there is a place to check for decently managed (lesser known) charities so that the donated cash does more good.

Gnarph
Gnarph
26 days ago
Reply to  Pal87

Downvote a ‘first’ comment AND do some good elsewhere in the world as well you say? I wish i had more downvotes to give…..

Deyo
Deyo
26 days ago
Reply to  Pal87

You are not getting my dollar. Have an upvote.

william scott
william scott
23 days ago
Reply to  Pal87

last care…. what do i win?

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
26 days ago

I mean, it’s not like Nintendo, Microsoft, or Steam invented a “reward people with ultimately worthless things for using our products daily and training themselves to spend a decent chunk of time each day” system. They all just copied mobile.

Well, except Nintendo, which predated it all with Animal Crossing. So I guess yet again Big N was the innovator in one of the most annoying parts of modern gaming.

HonoredMule
HonoredMule
26 days ago
Reply to  Eldest Gruff

Yeah, as far as consumer exploitation goes this is definitely in the ‘lite’ category, but completely benign it is not.

The underlying mechanic is still that of trying to monopolize mindshare by training brains with tricks rather than just selling pure fun.

I wonder if we should have seen how it would all go down when games first started implementing achievements. It might well have been that first baby step down the road to hell.

Muppet
Muppet
26 days ago
Reply to  Eldest Gruff

Pretty sure Pavlov already did this a century ago with dogs.

jack
jack
26 days ago

…zeke?!

Namefield
Namefield
26 days ago
Reply to  jack

Probably dumpster diving for parts and materials since damaged = can’t connect to the internet. Maybe parts of his memory or character traits are gone since that was stored in the cloud whenever it became too much to be stored locally.

no thanks nintendo
no thanks nintendo
26 days ago

If only it was a good idea, though. These “loyalty programs” have never been anything but useless. Especially Valve’s. Valve’s is so bad, gives the end user so little of worth, that I often forget it exists. Every time I buy a game, I’m like “Huh? Steam Points? Oh yeah. No thanks, I don’t want any stickers to use in your incredibly toxic forums, Valve.” Sony’s new program does sound just as useless as Valve’s, though. So I suppose that comparison is quite apt. Although I guess useless is still better than insulting, like Nintendo’s. Oh, do all these weird… Read more »

Logan
Logan
26 days ago

Nobody with a functioning brain is calling GP *litteraly* free. We know full well it’s tied to the monthly sub fee. However, considering the 400+ games, that fee breaks down to mere Cents per game. So they damn near are ‘free’. And Rewards with GP can be spent on anything in their store. Games, dlc, movies.. even $$ to use towards anything on the store, including the GP fee. So you *can* make it actually free, if you’re diligent and pay attention to offers. (And it doesn’t require you to “practically LIVE on GP” like so many detractors want to… Read more »

Last edited 26 days ago by Logan
Will
Will
26 days ago
Reply to  Logan

I think that saying it is cents per game is also false. You are paying a fee monthly for access. so how much the games cost you depend on how long they take to beat and how many you play at a time. It is nice that you can try a game, and if you don’t like it you move on at no loss, but if you only play one game in the month, it has cost you that full months sub for that game. More if it takes longer. There are definitely people who it is good for, and… Read more »

Khaisz
Khaisz
26 days ago

I love the difference in the “Interrogation” rooms between Nintendo and Xbox.
Xbox is chained to the wall beaten up.
Nintendo is tied to a chair with a blindfold.

robloughrey
robloughrey
26 days ago
Reply to  Khaisz

The nintendo is just happy someone is talking to it.

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
26 days ago
Reply to  robloughrey

I think he probably gave the PS5bot a stamp and some platinum coins just for the daily interaction.

J.D.
J.D.
26 days ago

Cross platform Should have always been available from the beginning.

Leon
Leon
26 days ago

Like exchanging trophies?………..

Dan
Dan
26 days ago

They had a loyalty program before. I got a few freebies from it. But it was TERRIBLY promoted.

Erik B
Erik B
26 days ago

So I’m mostly out of the loop on console gaming. Is this just like achievements, except you get points to spend on wallpapers and whatnot? The “digital collectibles” including “figurines” reminds me of like Batman Arkham Asylum, where you could earn the neat 3D renders of character statuettes.

Except this costs money….which sounds like a ripoff, lol.

Mr. Casual
Mr. Casual
26 days ago

I wonder how Sony gradually bringing their blockbuster games to Steam would show up in this narrative. Is Steam now a mercenary company, working for all bidders? For that matter, I wonder how Epic would show up now? Would be interesting.

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
26 days ago
Reply to  Mr. Casual

PC’s still out of the war. So really, it’s kind of like the military getting more funds by selling their advanced technology to the private sector.

raven0ak
raven0ak
25 days ago
Reply to  Eldest Gruff

Well, does god go to war with humans; higher being does not meddle between fight of ants

raven0ak
raven0ak
25 days ago
Reply to  raven0ak

and obligatory older comic about it https://cad-comic.com/comic/console-war-p64/

HonoredMule
HonoredMule
24 days ago
Reply to  raven0ak

PC is so superior, not even the game studios will mess with it.

yay… :/

Kazuma Taichi
Kazuma Taichi
26 days ago

I remember really liking the Nintendo loyalty program circa a decade’n’a half ago, but it certainly feels like every change they make to club nintendo makes it a less enjoyable experience.

For the one company who’s games never go down in MSRP over time, they really could afford to just let loyalty to their brand result in discounts sometimes.

Bakamoichigei
Bakamoichigei
25 days ago

That third panel got me. 😂 Did you literally google “valve patent” and get that patent drawing of a valve? Because that’s a damn good gag. 😏

Mr_Meng
Mr_Meng
25 days ago

One could argue that the reason that Sony has been late to the game for these things is that given their success they haven’t really had to consider implementing such features until now. After all they won the PS3 and PS4 generation of console wars and seem to be doing quite well for the PS5 generation.

Mr_Meng
Mr_Meng
24 days ago
Reply to  Tim

Anyway you slice it Sony’s success is indisputable.

Matt
Matt
24 days ago

you misspelled commissary