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Console War, p90

February 4, 2022 by Tim


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Gonfrask
Gonfrask
4 months ago

All is a matter of… perspective

Don't_Fear_Phil
Don't_Fear_Phil
4 months ago
Reply to  Gonfrask

If something goes horribly wrong with Microsoft’s purchase it’d make a really funny follow up comic revealing that the top pic is in fact forced perspective, but I dunno about that.

Pajuka
Pajuka
4 months ago

Or they use it in field and its just a dud

Mattias
Mattias
4 months ago

He could be standing next to a prop made out of cardboard.

evilleet
evilleet
4 months ago

Yay! Console wars is back! πŸ˜€

Don't_Fear_Phil
Don't_Fear_Phil
4 months ago

Maybe Sony is making a really heavy push back into the live service revenue market. Destiny 2 is still really big on their consoles and this seems like a similar move to their $250 million investment into Epic, albeit on a much larger scale. I really haven’t been paying attention, how much have they done in the mass online market since selling off their Online Entertainment subsidiary? Man, I miss early Star Wars Galaxies… Ah well, past is the past. But yeah with Microsoft’s purchase I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Call of Duty and WoW end up on… Read more »

Luke
Luke
4 months ago

I love it how they have enough billions to buy studios but not enough to make sure you can get a console in a store…

Arcatus
Arcatus
4 months ago
Reply to  Luke

As an electonics engineer, let me put it this way: If you think the console scalpers are bad – say hello to their big brother: Component scalpers. They purchase entire stocks of components (so millions of those tiny black squares all over inside any electronic thingy) and resell at 10x and even 100x the normal value. So a component that costs 20 cents is sold at the gray marked for 20 dollars. The component marked is broken, and it is not getting better anytime soon.

John Swift
John Swift
4 months ago
Reply to  Arcatus

Oof, I bet companies building bigger products like heavy machinery, cars ect buy those. Not as big against their margins.

lechuckGL
lechuckGL
4 months ago
Reply to  Arcatus

I recognize they can be an issue for medium and small size companies that work at a smaller scale…but I don’t think this applies to corporate transactions: those are bought on demand and we are talking about multi-million years long contracts, so I doubt there are any scalpers that can cope with that.

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
4 months ago
Reply to  lechuckGL

Agree with this point. I work with sales and ecommerce for an industrial manufacturer, who mostly sells to large OEMs and national distributors. The people you sell to are the people you’ve developed relationships with over the years, not some bots online. You have a vested interest in making sure that your product is sold at a reasonable cost to your best customers. You need to keep those OEMs and distributors happy, and especially with material shortages, you’re not going to just sell all your inventory to some rando online just because his bot clicked ‘sold’ thirty milliseconds faster.

Last edited 4 months ago by Eldest Gruff
Zerpeth
Zerpeth
4 months ago
Reply to  Eldest Gruff

Yeah, I actually work for a semiconductor chip company and we only sell our stuff to specific clients. Shareholders are God.

Blair Stewart
Blair Stewart
4 months ago
Reply to  lechuckGL

multi-million years long contracts

Wow those are long contracts.

Namefield
Namefield
4 months ago
Reply to  Arcatus

This is why I don’t like capitalism: Anything that makes money pays off, no matter how wrong. Doing expensive scientific research in space ? No, we’ll just advertise space trips to billionaires. Having working backup plans for critical infrastructure ? That costs money ! Functional, reliable economic structures that make sense ? Think of the banks !

Richard Weatherfield
Richard Weatherfield
4 months ago
Reply to  Namefield

What you just described is not Capitalism. At all.

Casi
Casi
4 months ago

actually it is. Profit of the capitalist class over anything else.

Logan
Logan
4 months ago
Reply to  Casi

No, it’s not. Capitolism isn’t a Class, its an Economic System. The only real Classes are the Elites, and us, The People. Lower and Middle are all the same to the Elites. What you’re thinking of is Corporatism. And greed, which can destroy any economic system. The difference in systems being that in Capitolism, ‘The People’ *are* actually free to participate, at whatever level we can. Entrepreneurs *are* welcomed (or, were, before the Corpos and Elites found something they could exploit recently..gee, yet again.. Greed rears its ugly head). Comm/Socialism, *would* work if, again, not for greed. But they are… Read more »

Pulse
Pulse
4 months ago

capitalism: money money! mine mine! gimme gimme
communism: for the people!
socialism: money for the people!

first works great for the few, horrible for the many. second works in small scale, dies to greed in larger. third gets most of the benefits, but some nasty hiccups along the way.

Jaeger
Jaeger
4 months ago
Reply to  Pulse

And in case of communism “for the people” means members of the party, often not even the lower level members. Look capitalism is not ideal but… have you guys actually looked at what communists do, they are barely better than fascists and we all agree those are bad, so why not treat the other mass murdering ideology same. By the way I am from Finland, we know what they did better than a yank, we were a target, we saw what Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia suffered. Even treaty of Paris ment we had to carry a blame for something that… Read more »

Toxic
Toxic
4 months ago
Reply to  Pulse

HELL NO!!!

I’m From Venezuela Fuck Socialism and Communism.

Logan
Logan
4 months ago
Reply to  Pulse

That’s not Capitolism. That’s Corporatism, and Greed (which ruins all Economies).

Namefield
Namefield
4 months ago

“What you just described is not Capitalism. At all.” Then what is ? And why don’t we have Capitalism, at all ?

Richard Weatherfield
Richard Weatherfield
4 months ago
Reply to  Namefield

Capitalism is an economic system allows free exchange of goods and services (when properly applied.) Profit is an important factor in Capitalism, yes, but anyone shortsighted enough to operate the way people THINK Capitalism operates either will be universally hated or will go out of business REALLY fast. What you think of as capitalism is what happens when people abuse the system, and no economic system is immune to abuse. And to my knowledge no one has mass murdered millions of people in the name of Capitalism despite its flaws.

Solokov
Solokov
4 months ago
Reply to  Arcatus

To tie in with this, component scalpers are part of the reason behind why:

  • Starlink’s rollout has slowed down on the end user side
  • Vehicle manufacturers have limited quantities of new vehicles (dunno why they just don’t offer base model vehicles will less “smart” features, the demand is there)
  • Canon not only has started selling ink cartridge without DRM chips, but has had to tell its consumers how to bypass the DRM on its printers

Probably a few other examples I’m missing, all in addition to the higher prices on the usual suspect goods like computer parts.

Mike
Mike
4 months ago
Reply to  Arcatus

I did not even know that was a thing.

Damn.

NoName
NoName
4 months ago
Reply to  Luke

I’ll be the less nice guy (see Arcatus): you need to live under a rock to not understand the situation we are in thanks to the pandemic – it’s a snowball effect and will not be solved anytime soon, no matter the experts and their perspective.

DahrAmahr
DahrAmahr
4 months ago
Reply to  Luke

Yeessss …. because they can burn their money and build semiconductors from the ashes. I love it when people think money can solve every problem.

no thanks nintendo
no thanks nintendo
4 months ago
Reply to  Luke

I love if how we’re entering year 3 of this ongoing pandemic, which has been a cause of an ongoing semiconductor shortage, and people still think “they have billions, just make more stuff”

They literally can’t, all the available fab space is booked. The only solution is to build more fabrication plants, which is in progress, but they won’t be fully built, staffed, and ready to help ease the shortage for quite some time still. Expect this to continue into 2023 at minimum.

lechuckGL
lechuckGL
4 months ago

Additionally as far as I know a great part of the semiconductors production was destined to medical equipment, thus the shortage for other industries (game consoles and also cars were very impacted)

Casi
Casi
4 months ago
Reply to  lechuckGL

One of the biggest issues with car manufacturers is that they use good, reliable, but ancient chips. Some of the chips in cars are 30-40 year old designs, and they are the only buyers of those chips because they cant really be used for anything else, so lots of fabricators put those orders lower in priority because of the demand for more widely used chips and components

Pulse
Pulse
4 months ago
Reply to  Casi

you would think some of the bigger car makers would just have a factory to make their own chips. its gotta be cheaper to pay a royalty or outright buy the design than to wait on product thats not being made.

Araho
Araho
4 months ago
Reply to  Pulse

Building a semiconductor fab costs in the billion dollar price tag though – not even car manufacturers have that kind of profit just lying around for such investments.

Logan
Logan
4 months ago
Reply to  Luke

How woefully ignorant of you.

All the money in the world cannot buy you bread to live on, if there is no wheat for somebody to make it with.

If there are no componenets for them to buy to MAKE consoles with, then all their billions does them no good towards acquiring those componenets.

Last edited 4 months ago by Logan
HappyWyvern
HappyWyvern
4 months ago

I was wondering how this story was going to be covered in the CW, didn’t think of the penis envy angle. Perhaps that’s my failing, either way, kudos Tim… Kudos…

GUNnibal
GUNnibal
4 months ago
Reply to  HappyWyvern

Believe it or not, I actually think that, upon hearing of huge corporations trying to decide who can spend more, your mind didn’t automatically go to dick jokes – it’s a good thing.

HappyWyvern
HappyWyvern
4 months ago
Reply to  GUNnibal

Im going to take that compliment! πŸ™‚ Good day to you sir πŸ™‚

ArbUse9001
ArbUse9001
4 months ago

It’s honestly insane that a purchase as big as Bungie (infamous for its desire to be independent, mind you) is no big deal nowadays. This would have been the biggest news in gaming history a mere few years ago. 3 BILLION. And now it’s just “Oh, Bungie? Bought? Eh. NBD. Call me when one of the gigantic publishers get bought and you’d better not mention it if it’s less than 10bil!”

Not a gripe at the comic itself per se, just marveling at the pole vaulting we’re doing over the overton window on this stuff.

Isocrates
Isocrates
4 months ago
Reply to  ArbUse9001

At this point I won’t be surprised if Sony drives a dumptruck full of gold bricks up to EA.

Pulse
Pulse
4 months ago
Reply to  Isocrates

which EA will promptly charge sony 4.99 per brick to take, and of course with a healthy dose of randomly (99%) taking their wallets instead.

Ste
Ste
4 months ago
Reply to  Isocrates

According to a bit of Googling, EA are worth rather more than Sony, so if anything it would be the other way around.

Logan
Logan
4 months ago
Reply to  ArbUse9001

I think a large part of that disinterest comes from exactly their attitude towards in/dependency. They’ve now left two big names in a bid to be independent. Yet both times having lauded the acquisition of their studio at the very beginning of those relationships, as a boon for them and the future of game designing for them. Yet end up not having a good relationship, and complain on the way out. To the point it really makes one wonder just how much of the problems were their fault, or the publisher. (They’ve slipped in to some really dumb/shady practices with… Read more »

raven0ak
raven0ak
4 months ago
Reply to  ArbUse9001

To be fair; bungies show case so far is that its not prestigious, just empty shell …name with ancient stock of IP’s

no thanks nintendo
no thanks nintendo
4 months ago

Yeah that was pretty much my thoughts on Sony’s acquisition too. Okay cool? You got Destiny? Does anyone still play Destiny? Maybe Sony can bring back Marathon? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ A lot of people were out there acting like Sony’s trading punches with Microsoft, and I’m just thinking naaaah. Microsoft bought a nuclear bomb and Sony responded by buying a BB gun. The playing field hasn’t been leveled at all. “Oh this’ll make sure CoD keeps coming to PlayStation!” so many people said. Again, naaaah. If I’m Microsoft, and Sony threatens me with “Give us Call of Duty or you won’t get… Read more »

Treiden
Treiden
4 months ago

Yep. Not really sure what Sony was thinking with the acquisition of Bungie…

Last edited 4 months ago by Treiden
Vukodlak
Vukodlak
4 months ago
Reply to  Treiden

[insert game title here]
From the visionaries behind Halo
Thats what they’re thinking.

raven0ak
raven0ak
4 months ago
Reply to  Vukodlak

Too bad if anyone understands things, then it just means: studio that back in time used to have visionaries like those behind Halo

Anon A Mouse
Anon A Mouse
4 months ago
Reply to  raven0ak

I’ll be honest, it’s becoming clear that even “From the [Insert role here] of [Insert Game Here]” doesn’t actually mean anything because most games are made by teams and having just 1 developer/designer/director won’t produce the same appeal that the game they are famous for had.

David K.
David K.
4 months ago

Millions of people play Destiny 2. WoW and FF14 are bigger in the MMO space but Destiny 2 is a strong 3rd. Over a million pre-orders for the expansion that releases later this month. You may not care, and that’s fine, but it’s not some obscure forgotten game.

Karnasis
Karnasis
4 months ago

Also, it takes time to make a deal like this. It wasn’t like Sony was like “Oh shit, MS just bought a huge ass publisher, we need to respond”. Both deals were being worked on AT minimum at the same time, one maybe longer than the other. Sony really doesn’t care what Microsoft does, their consoles still sell quite well (PS5 issues and scalpers not withstanding).

Pulse
Pulse
4 months ago
Reply to  Karnasis

add to that microsoft has pretty much confirmed they arent gonna hold anything from being sold on a playstation anyway. they arent stupid about getting some money where they can. only thing to wonder is if destiny players will need to fear losing access for not being on playstation. i doubt it, but i also doubted youd be able to buy gold in wow and keep your account.

Crestlinger
Crestlinger
4 months ago

So long it doesn’t blow up in their faces….

Nameless Minion
Nameless Minion
4 months ago

Ermmm, before you start bragging about the size of your weapon, maybe make sure it doesn’t leak radioactive shit everywhere (the sexual harassment scandal) or misfire catastrophically first (Diablo Immortal and WC3: Reforged).

Last edited 4 months ago by Nameless Minion
Vampyrr
Vampyrr
4 months ago

You think MS is going to let either of those kind of issues continue on this level of investment? Its going to be a clean up your shit or get out and in some cases both.

Mike
Mike
4 months ago
Reply to  Vampyrr

That is probably the one silver lining in this acquisition… it was getting to the point I wasn’t sure I could justify playing any more Blizzard titles given the news lately, but M$ will almost certainly ream their shit out as part of the takeover.

Pulse
Pulse
4 months ago

was immortal ever even worked on after the “announcement”?

Dizrupt
Dizrupt
4 months ago
Reply to  Pulse

Not sure why the Chinese mobile development team (NetEase) that Blizzard contracted Diablo Immortal out to would stop working on their money machine because their client’s bosses boss has a new boss.

Treiden
Treiden
4 months ago

I’m just glad Microsoft is leaning less and less on the “console war” aspect lately. Their social media is all about gaming inclusion, no matter what platform you’re gaming on. They promote crossplay. They have the Game Pass which, granted, is towards another platform they hold a major stake in anyway, but it shows a much more open view to their games being on something other than “their” console. It’s frankly a much healthier view – for the customers – than Sony’s rigid “Playstation-only” approach, which they’re thankfully gradually starting to step away from. Even with the acquisition of Activision… Read more »

Halo Fever
Halo Fever
4 months ago
Reply to  Treiden

“Their social media is all about gaming inclusion, no matter what platform you’re gaming on.”

And you see no disconnect with their social media and the $80B they’ve spent on exclusives?

Logan
Logan
4 months ago
Reply to  Halo Fever

The only people talking about “muh exclusives” are fanbois and naysayers. All anyone *official* has said, is that the ented to honor already establish contracts to their completion. At worst, we have to wait till then to see what they do, if anything, about making things exclusive. And that won’t be till at least when the acquisition finalizes sometime next year!

And a big fat fng whoop even if they do. Sony fanbois can suck a big one, after THEIR company has been HOGGING exclusives for the past 2 generations!

Treiden
Treiden
4 months ago
Reply to  Halo Fever

No, I don’t see any disconnect. None of the franchises they received with this acquisition are, in fact, exclusives. Not even Crash Bandicoot is a PS exclusive anymore. Sure, they favored the PS with extra goodies or an earlier release date, but Activision Blizzard already knew that exclusives are becoming more and more of a relic of the past. At worst, after this deal is completely finalized and existing contracts are done, I’m guessing Microsoft will just keep doing the “favored” approach, only towards their console instead of Sony’s. Again, blatantly shutting out the PS playerbase would be an incredibly… Read more »

Dodgy
Dodgy
4 months ago

Hah! Brilliant!

Dodgy
Dodgy
4 months ago
Reply to  Dodgy

“Ehm sir? That manufacturer we bought… no longer seems to produce the Halo warheads. Appearantly they sold off that branch a couple of years ago…”

– “Crap darnit! Fine! I’m done with this! Call in the Duty Troopers! We’ll show those Ex-bugger bastards!”

“Yeah… about those troops… it would seem they are no longer exclusively reporting to us, sir…”

Kaitensatsuma
Kaitensatsuma
4 months ago

Sony seems to be aiming to buy Capcom though and I’m a bit sad about that.

Any chance of Breath of Fire getting remastered or continued….gone.

Last edited 4 months ago by Kaitensatsuma
Belthasar2
Belthasar2
4 months ago
Reply to  Kaitensatsuma

You just made me very, very sad …
Not to mention that it has been nearly 20 years since the last BoF game.
But hey, at least good to see that other gamers are also still thinking about this series πŸ™‚

Halo Fever
Halo Fever
4 months ago

Jokes on them. I don’t play any of their games anymore.

Jonathan
Jonathan
4 months ago

This comic is exactly what I thought about it. I mean, I definitely felt a pang in my heart when I first heard the news(that was a first), but Sony looks for IP that generate revenue from multiplayer and bought DLC. Destiny does this but it’s on it’s way out as a game. So it just confused me. I hope Bungie has a good game coming.

Mike
Mike
4 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Destiny is not on its way out, over 1mil preorders for the expansion that launches in 2 weeks, and a strong content roadmap for the next 2 yearly expansions after. The game has continued to improve and grow.

Steeebe
Steeebe
4 months ago

Just put it close to the camera, take a focused pictured of both the dude in the background and the bomb and combine. BAM, looks just as huge.

Also, The Blizzard bomb ought to have a big rust spot that oddly looks like “WoW”.

Axiomite
Axiomite
4 months ago
Reply to  Steeebe

Actually, I think the big rust spot should oddly look like ‘HR’

Eldest Gruff
Eldest Gruff
4 months ago

Bungie is still an extremely talented group, and I’m honestly excited to see what direction Sony takes them in.

… is what I’d say if Sony didn’t already say they were going to be using them to make frigging live service games.

Honestly, though, neither company really makes games that I particularly enjoy. So no big loss for me, whichever next gen system I eventually buy.

Unless there’s a sudden revival of The Lost Vikings or Zork, that is. Then I’m all over XBox like avocado on toast.

max
max
4 months ago

where is my atari cs

max
max
4 months ago

#vcs

Solokov
Solokov
4 months ago

TBH, seems that Sony is going for a quantity of quality approach, other the quality of quantity approach. (Sony picking up lots of studios that have a track record of producing new stuff VS MS collecting existing IPs like they’re infinity stones), and meanwhile we’ve got Gaben off on the side talking about the game’s industry needing to be burned down and rebuilt like some kinda Senator Armstrong leaving me very curious as to what will happen over this decade.

Brett
Brett
4 months ago

First time I literally laughed out loud at the comic! #consolewars

Fela
Fela
4 months ago

So, someone enlighten me pls. That symbol on the PS’ bomb is what?

Jacob
Jacob
4 months ago

Forced perspective FTW

http://keanespics.com/ThemeParks/UO/USF/200612FL_541C09104.htm

Tiny model suspended in the air to make it look mounted on the building in the background.

A common practice among fishermen as well, holding a fish at arms length and leaning back to force a larger perspective.