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Recipient, p3

December 3, 2021 by Tim


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Pal87
Pal87
10 months ago

This can be very useful in the future.

Until someone gets wise and traces it to their store.

Then it is very unuseful.

BakaGrappler
BakaGrappler
10 months ago

Time for ZK to learn a little more about what Work and Wage means.

Klaster_1
Klaster_1
10 months ago
Reply to  BakaGrappler

What’s work? Might as well question if getting an income from rent is work.

On a side note, I half expected for ZK to mine the coins instead. “Work”.

SpeCter
SpeCter
10 months ago
Reply to  Klaster_1

Didn’t ZK do the transactional fee part of mining?. He just got the transaction fees without handling the transaction(since there was no need) though.

Pulse
Pulse
10 months ago
Reply to  SpeCter

theres a difference between a transaction fee and theft. this is actually a pretty common scenario really. most recent i can recall personally was in the second season of ghost in the shell. the villain did this to fund his nuke purchase.

JD.
JD.
10 months ago
Reply to  Pulse

yes, When ticket master does it its called a fee. when yo do it its called scalping.

Troy D Bird
Troy D Bird
10 months ago
Reply to  JD.

Funny how that works:

Nerds, Powered by Memes, Technology, and Crypto: “Oops, check out what I can do.”

Government: “B-But our control of monetary value!”
Stock Market: “B-But our illusion of stability!”
Gamestop: “What the heck is HAPPENING?!”

Any sufficient amount of processing is indistinguishable from magic. 😀

Last edited 10 months ago by Troy D Bird
Freddie
Freddie
9 months ago
Reply to  Troy D Bird

Lost it at Gamestop. Thank you.

Halosty
Halosty
10 months ago
Reply to  JD.

And when the banks do it, they try really hard not to get caught.

Gonfrask
Gonfrask
10 months ago

And now to teach the differences between can’t do and shouldn’t do.
More humans things I suppose

DarkMetatron
DarkMetatron
10 months ago

I think ZK has watched Office Space, the money making idea is right out of that film

GasBandit
GasBandit
10 months ago
Reply to  DarkMetatron

Which in turn got it from Superman 3.

grizz kid
grizz kid
10 months ago
Reply to  GasBandit

came to say this. does this reference make us old?

nealithi
nealithi
10 months ago
Reply to  grizz kid

Don’t think of it as old.
Think of it as more collectable.

James Kite
James Kite
10 months ago
Reply to  nealithi

I believe the term is…

“Vintage”

😁

Cheez
Cheez
9 months ago
Reply to  James Kite

Or like fine wine and scotch, we are well aged.

Last edited 9 months ago by Cheez
Mike the Limey
Mike the Limey
10 months ago
Reply to  GasBandit

Ah, it was in a Superman movie.
For some reason I thought it was one of the early Batman ones.

Little_Dragon
Little_Dragon
9 months ago
Reply to  Mike the Limey

At least he isn’t trying to create synthetic Kryptonite.

Yet.

Scott
Scott
10 months ago
Reply to  GasBandit

Which got it from a much older source…

Richard II Weatherfield
Richard II Weatherfield
9 months ago
Reply to  GasBandit

Uh…Superman 3 came out WAY before Office Space….

DarkMetatron
DarkMetatron
9 months ago
Reply to  GasBandit

Ok, to my excuse: I never watched Superman 3

foducool
foducool
10 months ago

reminds me of ghost in the shell stand alone complex

lightsabermario
lightsabermario
10 months ago

Goddangit, how many times are we going to steal the plot of “Office Space” and “Superman III”?

LudoLads
LudoLads
10 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Okay, but… Office Space is a good movie, and a classic by this point. And it would make sense for Zeke’s main takeaway to he the Heist lessons.

Jeff
Jeff
10 months ago
Reply to  Tim

The biggest faux pas of this is that you actually came on to explain/argue a point and expect ANYONE on the internet to change their opinion due to said explanation.

But of course, now I’m commenting and expecting somewhat the same. So meh.

Mike the Limey
Mike the Limey
10 months ago
Reply to  Tim

The idea goes all the way back to times when gold coins were in use & “clipping” (removing a tiny piece) from them was practised by criminals.
Because it debased the currency, conviction usually carried the death penalty.

lightsabermario
lightsabermario
10 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Btw, my comment was not meant to sound angry. My bad. Should have added a lol in there. Just thought it was funny that that story keeps coming up like a meme. I getcha that it’s a common thing in history, but it doesn’t stop it from being cutely familiar. If I was to pitch a story where a time traveler had to avoid erasing his own birth, it doesn’t matter how common or inherent to time travel stories this concept is, you’d still say “oh, he’s in danger of McFly-ing himself.”

Dodgy
Dodgy
10 months ago
Reply to  Tim

So the actual plot is the full salami?

Me-me
Me-me
9 months ago
Reply to  Tim

It’s as old as coins. The way I’ve heard it, smiths used to shave off the smallest amount of gold from the coins they minted for their sovereign and keep it until they had an appreciable amount for themselves. When caught they would be executed.

grizz kid
grizz kid
10 months ago

it can’t be stealing. 1) this is better written than superman III and 2) while ZK is hilarious, he’ll never be as funny as richard pryor.

James
James
10 months ago

Hackers also.

Juan Saenz
Juan Saenz
9 months ago
Reply to  James

It makes me feel so old that there is only one comment that mentions this classic.

Frizbee
Frizbee
10 months ago

You could ask why Office Space and Superman III stole the plot point too.

There was a book in 1978 “Computer Capers” which tells of several instances of banking fraud where the thief took small amounts from a large number of different accounts to make a profit.

While the book was referencing actual events, it was still a few years before Superman III came out.

As Tim said, real life translates into fiction incredibly well.

Last edited 10 months ago by Frizbee
Rolan7
Rolan7
9 months ago

Simpsons did it first 😛

James Kite
James Kite
10 months ago

So he’s been watching Superman III 😁

Rolando
Rolando
10 months ago
Reply to  James Kite

Came to say this. Or he watched Office Space. Both made big mistakes, but at least the latter is an infinitely better movie.

GUNnibal
GUNnibal
10 months ago

Oh God, did ZK find banks that store their digital dollars and cents in the same float? If so – robbing them is morally acceptable. The very phrase “fraction of a cent” gives me the heebie-jeebies, man…

SpeCter
SpeCter
10 months ago
Reply to  GUNnibal

There are banks that store their numbers in floats? I though pretty much everything in that sector uses fixed point numbers.

toughluck
toughluck
10 months ago
Reply to  SpeCter

Yep. The thing is, they typically use 4 to 7 digits in the fractional part. Everything after that is rounded. When it’s rounded down, some money disappears, and when it’s rounded up, some money is created. This is typically so little that it’s not significant and equivalent to misplacing a penny somewhere. There were already instances where some clever IT administrators at banks exploited that fact and gathered the money from these roundings to move to their own accounts. Some got greedy and rounded everything down which had zero net result for the customer and even for the bank, but… Read more »

Pulse
Pulse
10 months ago
Reply to  toughluck

you kinda make me wanna see about doing this as a way to run a bank. handle everything like normal, take the “trash”. nice way to give employees money that technically exists so i do have a legally tracable way. long as i put the fine print and assure that the customer never loses anything…..

Gnarph
Gnarph
10 months ago

Forty eight dollar pants?? Time for ZK to learn when they’re getting taken for a ride… erm *ahem* I mean theft is bad.

LudoLads
LudoLads
10 months ago
Reply to  Gnarph

You expect Zeke to debase himself with inferior pants?!

Jane S
Jane S
9 months ago
Reply to  LudoLads

*themselves 🙂

Freddie
Freddie
9 months ago
Reply to  Jane S

*themself

“it” may be deemed an unsuitable pronoun for people-type beings, but at least keep number agreement.

no thanks nintendo
no thanks nintendo
10 months ago

Toldja it wasn’t crypto mining.

Austin Mills
Austin Mills
10 months ago

I thought Zeke decided not to wear pants anymore.

7eggert
7eggert
10 months ago
Reply to  Austin Mills

Read yesterday’s comic

odaiwai
odaiwai
10 months ago

Wasn’t that the plot of Superman III? (The skimming off transactions, not the pants).

Last edited 10 months ago by odaiwai
Pulse
Pulse
10 months ago

its funny cause hes kinda right. most systems would nix the issue of it being off as an error and round. so the deeper you shave off the safer it is. what you gotta watch for is a system that doesnt and tracks it.

im more interested in how he got through the encryption.

Lily
Lily
9 months ago
Reply to  Pulse

Wouldn’t you have to shave off a cent though? How do you take any amount less than a penny from anything?

Logan
Logan
9 months ago
Reply to  Lily

Because the value goes a LOT deeper than 1c. (Look at exchange rates. The US dollar is just one of the highest valued currently. 1$ is not the same everywhere) But this also means it has a whole lotta room to be DE-valued.

Lily
Lily
9 months ago
Reply to  Logan

So basically he is stealing from people using bitcoin?

FITCamaro
FITCamaro
10 months ago

So…..Superman 3.

Last edited 10 months ago by FITCamaro
Jacob
Jacob
10 months ago
Reply to  FITCamaro

If we are going to use dated references, may has well go back as far as the great recoinage of 1696, even earlier prior art…

https://britanniacoincompany.com/blog/coin-clipping-the-great-recoinage-of-1696/

HenchmanTwenty1
HenchmanTwenty1
10 months ago

Richard Pryor’s character in the lame Superman 3 movie did something similar by using his programming skills to divert rounded off fractions of cents to is bank account.

Leon
Leon
10 months ago

The danger of doing things ‘because I can’………

Mike the Limey
Mike the Limey
10 months ago

Wasn’t a similar scheme involving fractions of cents from city employees pensions part of the plot in one of the earlier batman movies?

Somewhere
Somewhere
10 months ago

“Technically, the fraction of a cent gets rounded down to nothing, so neither the consumer nor producer gets it.
So, if you think about it, I’m ADDING value to the economy.”

Wee Woo
Wee Woo
10 months ago

When did Zeke get internet access?

Robfather
Robfather
9 months ago
Reply to  Wee Woo
Karrde
Karrde
10 months ago

The story of how the gang accidentally become white collar villains

Yakumo
Yakumo
10 months ago

Some might think Zeke a Stainless Steel Rat, but this was actually the Bishop’s racket.

Dr.Synth
Dr.Synth
10 months ago

I called this being his source of funding immediately.

Dharric
Dharric
10 months ago

Finally gone full Ghost in the Shell.

ReyMonoArdilla
ReyMonoArdilla
10 months ago

I will say the same thing I said when I saw Office Space: When Richard Pryor did that in Superman III, he got caught almost immediately. (They also almost got caught in Office Space).

Matt Braddock
Matt Braddock
10 months ago

…Did Zeke just pull a Swordfish for a pair of pants?

Last edited 10 months ago by Matt Braddock
Kaitensatsuma
Kaitensatsuma
10 months ago

Hey, if a bank can do it, I don’t see why an autonomous, sovereign AI entity can’t.

Whatever
Whatever
10 months ago

I’m with ZK on this one.

Dom
Dom
10 months ago

Phew, I thought he was going to say he used his hardware to mine crypto.
To be fair, a computer strong enough to run ZK’s mind in one humanoid sized chassis would be pretty good at mining stuff.

Greg
Greg
10 months ago

I presume that Zeke could just as easily farm bitcoin. In fact he might be well suited to solving blockchain. This would be legal and profitable. And probably untraceable.

Smiffwilm
Smiffwilm
10 months ago

As Colin Mochrie once said: “NI-ICE PANTS!”

Scott
Scott
10 months ago

Must admit to being slightly disappointed ZK doesn’t have his own Patreon…

Blaine Moore
Blaine Moore
10 months ago

Gotta love a good Gus Gorman reference.

Lily
Lily
9 months ago

How do you shave off fraction of a cent? Fraction of cents are not kept tracked of. So to steal the money you would have to at least be stealing a cent at a time.

GeorgeV
GeorgeV
9 months ago
Reply to  Lily

Fractions of cents not being properly tracked is precisely how this method is supposed to work. People would notice if their $99.99 account drops to $99.98. They don’t notice if $99.99(99) drops to $99.99(90). Even if they aren’t actively tracked, fractions of cents regularly come up in transactions. For a simplified example, imagine a transaction of a $10.95 purchase with a 10% discount. 10.95 * 0,90 = 9.855, leaving you with an ugly impossible half a cent at the end. Normally, you might round that down to $9.85, and have the $0.005 disappear into nothingness. In this case, Zeke takes… Read more »

7eggert
7eggert
9 months ago
Reply to  GeorgeV

.5 gets rounded o the nearest even number. Otherwise they’d accumulate.

Lily
Lily
9 months ago
Reply to  GeorgeV

There is no money disappearing though. You would be getting 9.99% or whatever instead of a 10% discount, so there is no extra floating money. It just got rounded off.

GeorgeV
GeorgeV
9 months ago
Reply to  Lily

Right, but the trick here is that you *don’t* just round it off, and instead transfer whatever amount you’d normally round off to a separate account.

Logan
Logan
9 months ago
Reply to  Lily

Also, the US dollar is not the only firm of currency in the world. Most places have ‘coins’ that are baked at much less than a US penny. Money goes a LOT deeper than most realize.

Last edited 9 months ago by Logan
Lord Foxxy Foxington
Lord Foxxy Foxington
9 months ago

The government, politicians, corporations, and big business people lie, cheat, and steal all the time, I have no problem with ZK doing this.

Admiral Casual
Admiral Casual
9 months ago

This isn’t the first time that I’ve heard about something like that, but the way Zeke is doing it is incredible. He’s leeching money from the human economy in such a subtle way that if he didn’t explain it to Ethan, there would be no way he’d get caught. You’d have to be a quantum supercomputer to even notice that there was anything amiss at all.