Seems a bit insane that the more serious heroes haven’t already stepped in and squashed the random unpowered lunatic threatening the city. But yeah.. definitely no point to letting him dunk them since he will just pull the trigger anyways and find a way to blame them. Never worth it to feed the trolls.
Give them some time to respond, or even just assess the situation. It’s not like Troll is some massive threat they’ve been ignoring for ages, it’s been barely 5 minutes since he suddenly upgraded from ‘escaped nobody’ to claiming to be endangering the city. So far Troll has been mostly small-scale feud, and Analog and D-Pad have been dealing with him well enough. I’m pretty sure the cops even mentioned having some other heroes standing by during the previous public presentation, they just haven’t had to step in yet. And there is always the whole ‘anyone else shows up and… Read more »
I believe when the Troll was first introduced, they mentioned that he went after other heroes. They mentioned one hero specifically that gained bad publicity in the manner in which they responded. They even had a conversation with another hero specifically about the Troll and that hero was aware and disliked him. I think they just avoid him while he has a current target. Analog and D-Pad decided against any response. The Troll didn’t like this, so forced them to respond via kidnapping and threatening to kill hostages if they didn’t play his game. The result is Analog (accidently?) dropping… Read more »
Darkhorse
2 hours ago
At this point U can’t believe Elijah is working together with the Troll. Sure he’s out to get Analog and D-Pad, but his bit is eventually about saving lives. Helping the Troll to these chemicals, even as a “bluff,” is too much a risk. How many children should be threatened to be disfigured and possibly die directly or indirectly before he steps in? The same for Black Hat. I can imagine him being angry at the world, but he wasn’t after physical or mental harm. He just wanted what he thought he didn’t get because of disfigurement. And this is… Read more »
I think Elijah still thinks his speed makes him unbeatable, regardless of him being beaten once. The troll probably set him up by “Here, you place all the sprayers” making him think that he can just go and grab them all before they go off if the ‘bluff’ fails. Not telling him that they will go off when moved after set down, or that he had someone else place a lot more as well.
I can still easily believe it. It’s true that it shouldn’t make sense from the ‘saving lives’ viewpoint, but when your perspective gets as warped as Elijah’s, logic mostly stops mattering. It’s disturbingly easy to twist any situation and see horrible things as a valid option regardless. All you have to is imagine the alternative is somehow worse, and suddenly doing the horrible thing almost becomes a moral duty. It becomes less about how horrible the thing you’re doing is, and more about how horrible you can imagine the alternative is. Is a city of disfigured children bad? Sure. But… Read more »
No I can’t believe that. He has a very distinct idea, where killing gun store owners and game store owners can aid the world. Being thwarted once by Analog and D-Pad does not instantly warp everything else in his psyche, causing him to be okay with ***Stealing chemicals, weaponising them and threatening a city of several million people with horrible disfigurement, harm and death.*** If it would be a descent into madness I can understand. But he’s hardly had the hardship to get there. This is a 500 steps above what he was doing. However much he might have a… Read more »
The last time we saw Elijah, his bit was taking lives, not saving them. We saw someone willing to warp and twist logic to justify doing anything, no matter how reprehensible. I’m sure Elijah has already justified this to himself too, all in the memory of a little brother who would be ashamed and disappointed if he could see the evil his big brother was using his powers for.
JozMk.II
2 hours ago
Honestly, this is what I enjoy most in the main CAD arcs these days; The superhero stuff. I hope the toxic relationship drama is resolved soon.
Glurglenuts
2 hours ago
Well, a couple of options spring to mind. Zeke might be willing to help out here or, in the unlikely event that the Troll shows up personally, that unhinged murderhobo superhero from earlier might want to speak to the Troll.
Fartsy
2 hours ago
The thing with the Troll is that you never know if he’s serious or straight up bluffing, which makes this character a serious threat.
Scortch
2 hours ago
I think this is where Ethan is going to find her still has his powers.
Robert
2 hours ago
Ah yes, the good old agreeable: “If they don´t obey, they will FORCE me to mess up all those innocents, why are they doing that?” … which exists in every variation and scale.
They made me hit them.
They made me shoot them.
They made me bomb them.
They made me invent a killer AI to destroy humanity, see the consequences of your actions, Cindy from tenth grade?
They provided shelter to refugees, which forced me to deport citizens.
They showed concern for the future, which forced me to eliminate years of scientific research.
They tried to hire people based on competence, which forced me to invent high ranking positions and assign them to family and those who bow to me.
Can you imagine how dystopic it would be if someone tried to pull this kind of stunt in real life, and how utterly soul-crushing it would be if people bought it? I’m sure glad this is merely fiction.
Gonfrask
1 hour ago
And as always with these, is you that must look at the things from their point of view, never the other way
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Seems a bit insane that the more serious heroes haven’t already stepped in and squashed the random unpowered lunatic threatening the city. But yeah.. definitely no point to letting him dunk them since he will just pull the trigger anyways and find a way to blame them. Never worth it to feed the trolls.
Yeah like at this point, this is when you involve more supers, you’re not dealing with petty thieves and vandals anymore.
Give them some time to respond, or even just assess the situation. It’s not like Troll is some massive threat they’ve been ignoring for ages, it’s been barely 5 minutes since he suddenly upgraded from ‘escaped nobody’ to claiming to be endangering the city. So far Troll has been mostly small-scale feud, and Analog and D-Pad have been dealing with him well enough. I’m pretty sure the cops even mentioned having some other heroes standing by during the previous public presentation, they just haven’t had to step in yet. And there is always the whole ‘anyone else shows up and… Read more »
I believe when the Troll was first introduced, they mentioned that he went after other heroes. They mentioned one hero specifically that gained bad publicity in the manner in which they responded. They even had a conversation with another hero specifically about the Troll and that hero was aware and disliked him. I think they just avoid him while he has a current target. Analog and D-Pad decided against any response. The Troll didn’t like this, so forced them to respond via kidnapping and threatening to kill hostages if they didn’t play his game. The result is Analog (accidently?) dropping… Read more »
At this point U can’t believe Elijah is working together with the Troll. Sure he’s out to get Analog and D-Pad, but his bit is eventually about saving lives. Helping the Troll to these chemicals, even as a “bluff,” is too much a risk. How many children should be threatened to be disfigured and possibly die directly or indirectly before he steps in? The same for Black Hat. I can imagine him being angry at the world, but he wasn’t after physical or mental harm. He just wanted what he thought he didn’t get because of disfigurement. And this is… Read more »
I think Elijah still thinks his speed makes him unbeatable, regardless of him being beaten once. The troll probably set him up by “Here, you place all the sprayers” making him think that he can just go and grab them all before they go off if the ‘bluff’ fails. Not telling him that they will go off when moved after set down, or that he had someone else place a lot more as well.
I can still easily believe it. It’s true that it shouldn’t make sense from the ‘saving lives’ viewpoint, but when your perspective gets as warped as Elijah’s, logic mostly stops mattering. It’s disturbingly easy to twist any situation and see horrible things as a valid option regardless. All you have to is imagine the alternative is somehow worse, and suddenly doing the horrible thing almost becomes a moral duty. It becomes less about how horrible the thing you’re doing is, and more about how horrible you can imagine the alternative is. Is a city of disfigured children bad? Sure. But… Read more »
No I can’t believe that. He has a very distinct idea, where killing gun store owners and game store owners can aid the world. Being thwarted once by Analog and D-Pad does not instantly warp everything else in his psyche, causing him to be okay with ***Stealing chemicals, weaponising them and threatening a city of several million people with horrible disfigurement, harm and death.*** If it would be a descent into madness I can understand. But he’s hardly had the hardship to get there. This is a 500 steps above what he was doing. However much he might have a… Read more »
The last time we saw Elijah, his bit was taking lives, not saving them. We saw someone willing to warp and twist logic to justify doing anything, no matter how reprehensible. I’m sure Elijah has already justified this to himself too, all in the memory of a little brother who would be ashamed and disappointed if he could see the evil his big brother was using his powers for.
Honestly, this is what I enjoy most in the main CAD arcs these days; The superhero stuff. I hope the toxic relationship drama is resolved soon.
Well, a couple of options spring to mind. Zeke might be willing to help out here or, in the unlikely event that the Troll shows up personally, that unhinged murderhobo superhero from earlier might want to speak to the Troll.
The thing with the Troll is that you never know if he’s serious or straight up bluffing, which makes this character a serious threat.
I think this is where Ethan is going to find her still has his powers.
Ah yes, the good old agreeable: “If they don´t obey, they will FORCE me to mess up all those innocents, why are they doing that?” … which exists in every variation and scale.
They made me hit them.
They made me shoot them.
They made me bomb them.
They made me invent a killer AI to destroy humanity, see the consequences of your actions, Cindy from tenth grade?
They provided shelter to refugees, which forced me to deport citizens.
They showed concern for the future, which forced me to eliminate years of scientific research.
They tried to hire people based on competence, which forced me to invent high ranking positions and assign them to family and those who bow to me.
Can you imagine how dystopic it would be if someone tried to pull this kind of stunt in real life, and how utterly soul-crushing it would be if people bought it? I’m sure glad this is merely fiction.
And as always with these, is you that must look at the things from their point of view, never the other way