One of my favorite parts about Total Warhammer is that due to the varying ways the AI behaves, even running the same starting faction/location can result in very different games. You may have a strong opponent in one game that gets wiped out quickly before you even meet them in the next one.
This means who is friends with who can also be different, because you may find you have different neighbors depending on how things play out. And deciding who to be friends with, who to trade with, who to ally with means a fair amount of paying attention to who their friends and enemies are. The game is called Total War, but often its wise to not be at war with everyone at once.
It’s that sort of strategizing and weighing my options that keeps me firing the game up time and time again.
Imagine how it is for me, as Warhammer 3 is my first Warhammer game! So, SO, many things to learn the hard way, but it is a lot of fun. Just need to maybe not be too friendly with the Greenskins next to a mountain full of Dawn. Ouch…
Yes, there are so many systems within systems to slowly sort out and remember 🙂
There are! Last play through I was Vampire Courts and wondered why I was flat broke all the time. Turns out I forgot to upgrade my CAPITAL past level 3. Still, fun systems to learn!
Just bearing in mind the faction in general can be helpful. They’re greenskins. They can and will stab you in the back unless you put a LOT of work into keeping them happy, and everyone will hate you for being chummy with them. You generally only want to ally with them if your another ‘evil’ faction where most people are gonna hate you anyway and the greenskins just happen to hate you the least.
Just remember to never be too friendly with “evil” factions, because unlike the “order” factions they hate each other with a passion, so you’ll have all order factions and many evil factions put up against you. Its really a pity CA still didn’t take into consideration the fact that in the WHFB universe even evil factions would stand together if presented with a common cause.
I mean eventually everything falls apart, sure, but you can get a lot of temporary friendships going between “evil” factions. In my current IE, I had a nice little 3-way cuddlefest between me, Ikit Claw and the Broken Axe greenskins (we were all super green to each other) which nicely insulated me from the high elves to the west. Of course, then DA BIGGEST WAAAGH broke out and Grom turned on us, but it worked for a while.
As a Nurgle player the “eventually everything falls apart” made me chuckle.
In II I ran as Ikit, so I’m friends with you until its advantageous to stab you in the back
Friggin’ Dave, man. Get it together.
James, is that you?
Sounds just like my wife’s relationships with all of her girl friends. I need a notebook on who’s fighting with who.
I was thinking this sounds like the Base Housing drama before we bought our house and moved away from all that crap!
Ah, it’s so much easier to be an anti-social hermit with no friends: I basically only have to leave the house for groceries and if the car needs some work done, I don’t have to worry about pissing anyone off, I don’t have to remember anyone’s birthdays…
What’s not like?
Also, if a pandemic rolls around, it’s just more of the same 4 walls in our room. Just only need a few masks and some other notables for the grocery runs.
Finding someone for multiplayer games sucks thou. Especially those games designed to be played with a dedicated crew for several missions.
friends arent only usefull for videogames you know.
that’s the saddest thing I’ve read today. I have a lot of friends and I dont worry about pissing ppl of or remembering birthday, because who cares? it’s not what friendship is about, not at all…
Sound like Middle School
Then the game decides that AI faction #104 will crash your game at turn 120 for whatever reason, and even loading a save a couple of turn before will still lead to that even if you male different choice. RIP mr Gor-Rok campaing.
Bummer :/ I’ve yet to have a game-ending crash like that.
I enjoy the AI keeping me on my toes. “Oh we have a 35 opinion of you? You’re at war with the same people? Nahh, just kidding we hate you! WAR!!!!! At least they fixed human prioritization. I don’t have to worry about Ulthuan sailing the seven seas to come murder me while their donut is being overrun. It would be nice though if maybe, just maybe, the AI could stop declaring war on me the minute I see them. XD I discovered a lizardman faction. Eventually their opinion would tick up to +55, but because when you first discover… Read more »
Yeeeah… in fairness though, I’ve definitely turned around and declared war on a faction I had a good relationship with just because it suited my expansion goals, so you could say the AI is just being human XD
But 100% I often turn down friendships because I don’t want to meet their neighbors. In fact that was one of the drafts I sketched out while brainstorming XD
In WH3, I just avoid all alliances and non-aggression pacts. I declare war on whoever is closest that I want to take over.
Huh, explains why I’m always at war with half the map. I just got in the habit of building defenses in every city.
Then there is Nakari who everyone loves, willfully or not.
And Fateweaver who decides who likes whom.
I’ve reached this stage in my warhammer knowledge. I play as the Empire most of the time so I’m surrounded from the get go. Sometimes I utterly trash the Secessionist faction and other times the Secessionists prove more stubborn than a pack of angry mules and manage to beat me down. It also doesn’t help when BOTH the Brayheard and Redhorn Tribes of Beastment come knocking and start raiding your settlments. Ugh
I think making friends is like cooking spaghetti, throw them at the wall and see if it sticks
What’s this, the Immortal Syndicate?
I understood that POE reference
lol Tim, you almost make it sound like a Paradox game
That last panel just makes me wonder where Pepe Silvia fits in to all of this….
This is peanuts compared to the diplomatic maneuvers of an average EU4 game
my only experience playing a game with a set of other opponents that wasnt multiplayer was civ, and ive come to the conclusion persia has something i dont know about because no matter who i start as its always me and them at the end fighting for the world.
I find making new friends increasingly difficult.
Panel 1 for instance looks easy, but that is totally fiction in my book.
I dont think i made new real friends after i turned 30.
It all was so much easier as kids.
“want to be my friend?” and now, 30 years later, still friends.
that also work when you’re > 30, mostly. Especially at works, where it’s very easy, you should give it a try!
I dont understand half of the comments ahah. Warhammer really is a niche.
Now I want to see a challenge run in a Total War game where the player literally is at war with everyone.
Maybe we’ve played different TTWH games. Back when I played 2 it almost always boiled down to the same 3-4 factions conquering everything. Dwarves would steamroll the badlands, Empire would take the empire region and push west to the ocean, lizardmen would conquer everything west, and Highelves would take the donut and camp there. 80% of games would end up boiling down to that or be most of the way there to that before you meet the victory conditions.
There was a Positech Game Series “Kudos”, where it was a menu driven life sim. Work job to make money to buy things/pay bills, do fun things to keep yourself happy/develop skills/build relationships with friends. It was that build relationship thing that became one of the bones of contention with me, as you’ld have friends who may have no similar interests so their dislike of an event would cause problems with doing the event. Like, you may have four friends, John, Sam, Mary and Sue. John and Sam like sports, music and drinking, Mary likes french restaurants, jogging and movies,… Read more »
And every single one of those options are dudes