Interesting question! It wouldn’t be murder anymore, but probably a lesser crime? Especially dependent on how long they’ve been dead and how much that lost time has screwed up their life/livelihood.
It would also add the wrinkle that the former murder victim could CHOOSE whether to press charges or not. Something that definitely doesn’t happen on Earth, lol.
Of course it would still be murder. Just because you reverted the result, it doesn’t change the original crime (if it was already murder then and not an accident). Although, I would have to check if murder is strictly defined by having a corpse from a legal viewpoint. Though, I don’t think so. I mean, if someone beats you up and you heal by yourself afterwards, he still beat you up. If someone beats you up and he heals you afterwards, he still beat you up. Depending on the motivation for bringing the person back from the dead, it might… Read more »
There used to be laws in many jurisdictions that made it effectively impossible to prosecute a murder without a body…that had some major side effects though, and modern courts have largely done away with the requirement for a body.
It’ll probably be based on how resurrections are performed, and what limits there are (like the deceased must have died less than 5 days ago or all body parts must be present). So if resurrections needed to happen within 5days, then you accidentally un-aliving someone might only carry the cost of the resurrection (either gold or forced labour) as punishment because you immediately called for help and got a cleric to revive them, proving it was accidental and you meant no harm. While murder will still get you the gallows, in fact it’ll be easier to prove intent when accidents… Read more »
A slightly better example (in my mind) is, “If I steal your car, take it on a 3 hour joyride, and return it to the original spot, is it still Grand Theft Auto? Yes, yes it is.”
Ah, yes, sure – the friendly neighbourhood SHADY TAVERN GNOME will help you raise your dead friend, of course. No strings attached, moving all on its- His, his own! Yeees, “his”.
Not *my* Cleric of Vecna Gnome anyways. One corpse? Small fry stuff! lol (ambitions of eternal life were always at the forefront)
Scarsdale
1 year ago
It wasn’t murder, it was a series of mistakes. Dumb ones, but still mistakes. Like the one not asking if they could take their friend to the Priest when they tried to enter. It IS DnD so this is on the game master as much as anyone! (all eyes turn to the guy behind the map…)
Jonathan
1 year ago
At least Tobyn didn’t feel that.
Jayle
1 year ago
PLEASE more of this!
Honestly if you transformed this into a site of exclusively “The Campaign” comics, I’d be fine with that, personally.
understanding that’s a slim chance however, I’d settle for it running a little longer and recurring far more frequently?
Rolando
1 year ago
The legal implications are many. I’ll cover just a few:
I think resurrecting someone that you killed, might just provide the authorities with the perfect witness.
But at the same time, it could erase all evidence.
I’d assume resurrection spells leave a strong and specific magical residue, that experts can recognise. But that only proves being resurrected recently.
Or resurrections require specific rules to be followed (follower of a faith, the body has to be intact, has to happen within a certain timeframe, ect). That means if you killed someone by accident then a resurrection could drop a murder charge down to an assault charge, as you didn’t kill them, you put them into a sort of extreme coma.
But if you say killed and dismembered someone, knowing full well that resurrection requires an intact body… well that’s murder as clear as day. Off to the gallows with ya.
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And if they have clerics there it’d be a semi-normal thing too for people to visit with a corpse for resurrection.
I’m sorry in advance but I have to say this:
“Let the bodies hit the floor!”
FFFFLOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRR
Welll that’s gonna be rattling around my brain for the next week , thank you soo so much…. :p
I’ll never see those words or hear that song with getting the mashup with Popcorn stuck in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVcAyEMM4Cc
brilliant!
God . Damn . It .
Just take your upvote and get out of here…. G’on, GIT!
Good GODS. That was hilarious. I had to hold back my laughter some, to not spill the tea cup on the tray on my lap.
*Drinks to your fine joke*
So my assumption if I was a guard would be, they murdered him and are trying to cover up the crime by covertly bringing him back to life.
If you bring back to the death a person you have killed…is still a crime?
Here, let me fix that for you:
“If you bring back a person you have killed to the death – is still a crime.”
Agh…”bring back FROM the dead”… you’re right, I mixed it with bring back to life…and now can’t edit it…
how are both of you coming out like the “before” clip in a hooked on phonics commercial??
Interesting question! It wouldn’t be murder anymore, but probably a lesser crime? Especially dependent on how long they’ve been dead and how much that lost time has screwed up their life/livelihood.
It would also add the wrinkle that the former murder victim could CHOOSE whether to press charges or not. Something that definitely doesn’t happen on Earth, lol.
There’s still always “mishandling of a corpse”
Of course it would still be murder. Just because you reverted the result, it doesn’t change the original crime (if it was already murder then and not an accident). Although, I would have to check if murder is strictly defined by having a corpse from a legal viewpoint. Though, I don’t think so. I mean, if someone beats you up and you heal by yourself afterwards, he still beat you up. If someone beats you up and he heals you afterwards, he still beat you up. Depending on the motivation for bringing the person back from the dead, it might… Read more »
There used to be laws in many jurisdictions that made it effectively impossible to prosecute a murder without a body…that had some major side effects though, and modern courts have largely done away with the requirement for a body.
I agree, it’s still murder. But in a world where death is often less permanent, the penalty for murder might be far less than in our world.
Especially murder with an intent to resurrect. Sure, it’s still murder. But it’s not depriving someone of life and limb… permanently.
It’ll probably be based on how resurrections are performed, and what limits there are (like the deceased must have died less than 5 days ago or all body parts must be present). So if resurrections needed to happen within 5days, then you accidentally un-aliving someone might only carry the cost of the resurrection (either gold or forced labour) as punishment because you immediately called for help and got a cleric to revive them, proving it was accidental and you meant no harm. While murder will still get you the gallows, in fact it’ll be easier to prove intent when accidents… Read more »
I would guess it would fall under Attempted Murder.
if I break your legs but have them treated at a hospital is it still assault? Yes yes it is.
A slightly better example (in my mind) is, “If I steal your car, take it on a 3 hour joyride, and return it to the original spot, is it still Grand Theft Auto? Yes, yes it is.”
Hey, I have a Sam Jackson on the phone for you, he just wants to ask,
“English motha’fucka , do you speak it?”
Nop, I speak spanish.
But the real answer should be: “what?”
Shady, with a taste for the bony jewelry, that talked with a grave voice…seem like a fine guy
I’m terrified to think how mangled that body is now.
Fortunately it is still in the packaging, so they can file a claim with the courier.
But they are the couriers.
it’s like mailing wine glasses via standard USPS, the box is gonna be a bit banged up, but you know the insides will be an utter shambles.
And i was hoping for a Horse where an arm or a leg sticks out of the … as the corpse did get shoved in the ‘inventory’
A whole new meaning to the term “horse pocket”
Ah, yes, sure – the friendly neighbourhood SHADY TAVERN GNOME will help you raise your dead friend, of course. No strings attached, moving all on its- His, his own! Yeees, “his”.
ohhh yes, DEFINITELY OF COURSE a legit resurrection spell,
NO chance whatsoever of a shady necrognome casting create undead….
Not *my* Cleric of Vecna Gnome anyways. One corpse? Small fry stuff! lol (ambitions of eternal life were always at the forefront)
It wasn’t murder, it was a series of mistakes. Dumb ones, but still mistakes. Like the one not asking if they could take their friend to the Priest when they tried to enter. It IS DnD so this is on the game master as much as anyone! (all eyes turn to the guy behind the map…)
At least Tobyn didn’t feel that.
PLEASE more of this!
Honestly if you transformed this into a site of exclusively “The Campaign” comics, I’d be fine with that, personally.
understanding that’s a slim chance however, I’d settle for it running a little longer and recurring far more frequently?
The legal implications are many. I’ll cover just a few:
I think resurrecting someone that you killed, might just provide the authorities with the perfect witness.
But at the same time, it could erase all evidence.
I’d assume resurrection spells leave a strong and specific magical residue, that experts can recognise. But that only proves being resurrected recently.
Tricky. How fun.
Or resurrections require specific rules to be followed (follower of a faith, the body has to be intact, has to happen within a certain timeframe, ect). That means if you killed someone by accident then a resurrection could drop a murder charge down to an assault charge, as you didn’t kill them, you put them into a sort of extreme coma.
But if you say killed and dismembered someone, knowing full well that resurrection requires an intact body… well that’s murder as clear as day. Off to the gallows with ya.
Yep. Makes sense.
And that should be gallows AND dismemberment, so no one resurrects you 😉
Perhaps Madame Gillotine would be a better choice – removing a head does dismember and kill at the same time