How I see this playing out: Ethan risks himself to try and help Zeke no matter what. Zeke calls out the empty gesture, knowing Ethan’s respawn powers. Ethan reveals that they’re potentially gone for good in return – hopefully before a robot skull crush.
More likely that Zeke will disable Ethan than killing him. Zeke knows killing Ethan isn’t a long term solution to anything. Locking him in physically or using a taser and then tie wraps or something is a better bet. Besides venting frustration Zeke has little reason to kill Ethan.
Frustration is likely, but enough to kill? Especially because the pain Ethan feels when dying was one of the main reasons Z didn’t go on a killing spree, I think killing out of frustration isn’t going to happen. It also would make for a worse story. Why test Ethans powers in a ‘frustration’ moment, when it can be in a climactic battle to keep Scott safe for example. Personally I would rather see how Ethan approaches heroism without knowing if his powers work a bit more, but the prevailing opinion seems to lean to ‘get him his powers back’.
Arcatus
7 months ago
oh-shit. ohshitohshitohshit.
Hotair
7 months ago
This is about to get juicy, I just know it!
p. stein
7 months ago
holy shit, I can’t believe it’s been 2 years since Zeke disappeared.
Wait what? How is that possible. I swear I have to keep reminding myself how long I’ve been reading this comic. I feel like it’s only been 2 years since Analog & D-Pad started.
I had broken my back in 2 places during a car accident, while I did learn to walk agaim,I never fully recovered feeling in my right leg, so while I can drive a “normal” car I have a left-foot gas pedal.
The assumption that a disabled person can’t drive is incredibly ableist. Even people with complete paralysis of the legs can drive using adapted vehicles with hand controls
Don’t throw around labels. Just because a person doesn’t know something doesn’t make them ableist. There is a lot of really cool tech out there to help people, but you can’t assume everyone knows about it and obviously without those modifications the line of thinking would be valid. Basically, your first sentence was unnecessary and just placed blame where there was a lack of knowledge
“But if we can’t smugly throw labels at each other, how would we know who wins the oppression Olympics?” /Sarcasm
I agree with you. Instead of treating things as a teachable moment “My dude, here is how your comment could be taken as insensitive”, we assume the worst and thereby create the worst in each other.
Yea you’re right, but in this day and age of tech you have to be really ignorant to think their isn’t tech to help assist paraplegics in driving. It wasn’t the assumption that looks bad, it was stating it like it was a know fact that rubbed him the wrong way. Regardless in this comic, with a sentient robot and superheroes, you don’t think a dude without the use of his legs wouldn’t be able to find a way to drive? It’s a bit ridiculous
Being ignorant isn’t a ticket out of ableism. It only means the person has room to grow, more to learn, and still a decent chance of overcoming their unthinking biases in future when they become better aware. Unfortunately their actions still impact on people in the present. That ignorance itself also speaks to having not taken the chance to-date to find out information for themselves (for example not googling “can you drive in a wheelchair” prior to posting a related comment and spreading misinformation as a result). So while Thundervolt’s reply was probably what I’d go for – even-handed and… Read more »
Can’t edit, so: Being ignorant isn’t a ticket out of ableism. It only means the person has room to grow, more to learn, and still a decent chance of overcoming their unthinking biases in future when they become better aware. Unfortunately their actions still impact on people in the present. That ignorance itself also speaks to having not taken the chance to-date to find out information for themselves (for example not googling “can you drive in a wheelchair” prior to posting a related comment and spreading misinformation as a result); ie, this was very avoidable. Tim realised he didn’t know,… Read more »
I wasn’t trying to sound ableist, I just never heard of cars that had hand controls, I don’t drive myself because of seizures, I don’t know anyone who has mobility problems, so it doesn’t really come up in my day to day life
That’s admirable of you to respond so calmly, but unfortunately it was still a bit ignorant and ableist to comment as strongly as you did against the idea of disabled folk driving ourselves – especially when it’s already being demonstrated in situ right above this comment thread! As someone who drives a car with partial hand controls myself, essential because walking is so difficult and wheelchairs cost thousands, your comment did sting. It made me feel generally less seen in the world. And it’s hard not to be hyper-aware of the already very toxic public mindset against disability, and how… Read more »
Also FWIW I read Ethan as having untreated ADHD and also being generally immature without much long-term consequence planning. And that definitely CAN be a recipe for disaster in a driver! That being said, we’ve also seen that he can be deadly serious, ethical, caring, and take sensible decisions when it comes to the crunch. ADHD is also a massively mixed bag in how it impacts on your driving style; I have a diagnosis, no treatment as of yet, and none while learning, but personally I find the many multiple streams of information coming at you while handling a vehicle… Read more »
While I get where the mass silent downvoting is coming from on every comment explaining how unintentional ableism still impacts disabled people (it’s really frustrating to see it, but given how the world is at present, it’s unsurprising – honestly I’m glad there isn’t more, this board is apparently really nuanced and widely read?)… I honestly don’t get why I’m getting downvoted to describing how people with different neurotypes successfully drive.
I dont know what kind of idiots downvoted you. As a disabled person myself, I totally agree with you, but internet nerds arent ready to talk about ableism.
It’s obvious that Scott’s a driver known to Ethan for the question to be asked as it was above. Let alone Scott didn’t react as if it was impossible. Esc is reasonably calling Tim out for wildly assuming incapability due to ignorance / presumption, despite the media clearly stating otherwise.
Its funny people think there arent cars designed to accommodate disabled people, considering theres a large percentage of them
Daniel
7 months ago
My guess? This is the beginning of a plot where Zeke reveals his evil-ish plan, and there is no way to talk him out of it. A lot of drama there, probably death risk of many sorts, and in the end it will become clear that Zeke became a villain (maybe a redeemable one), and will face Ethan again when he’s on full power, probably at the very end of the story plot.
AustynSN
7 months ago
I’ve been figuring these two story lines would intersect in a way that Zeke is the one to prove Ethan still has powers.
Ben
7 months ago
Showing up with Scott in tow may be the worst thing you could do
I know Zeke has probably been otherwise occupied (with half their head blown off and having to deal with the Master again), but having interacted with Ethan the most and having a superior computing power to meatbags… Sorry, I meant to say humans, he might be the most capable person / entity (do they identify as a “person”? I am not sure anymore) to determine if / how Ethan’s powers have been affected by the Troll.
Kevin Greenbaum
7 months ago
Do we know for sure if he killed the Master or just forced him to repair the damages? Iirc the last panel we saw of Zeke was him appearing in his home and the Master having a small panic attack.
I found it! December 2022. https://cad-comic.com/comic/brannigan-p13/
Looks like we don’t know what happened, it is clear that he still has some damage due to the Hi hi stuttering
We don’t have any confirmation, but given the manner of their entrance and the Master being #1 on their list of hated people, it seems unlikely that Zeke only wanted repairs.
Tim L
7 months ago
Not gonna lie, I didn’t expect Scott to be convinced so easily, guess he’s struggling with the whole bomb-in-head deal more than he let on.
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Hope zeke’s ok
Ooooh. I suspect were shortly going to get an empirical test of whether Ethan’s respawn powers still work.
How I see this playing out: Ethan risks himself to try and help Zeke no matter what. Zeke calls out the empty gesture, knowing Ethan’s respawn powers. Ethan reveals that they’re potentially gone for good in return – hopefully before a robot skull crush.
Zeke crushes Ethan’s skull, and we get CAD 3.0.
Well this should test Ethan’s powers cause that’s probably something Zeke remembers quite well.
More likely that Zeke will disable Ethan than killing him. Zeke knows killing Ethan isn’t a long term solution to anything. Locking him in physically or using a taser and then tie wraps or something is a better bet. Besides venting frustration Zeke has little reason to kill Ethan.
You say that like venting frustration is not a very likely scenario.
Frustration is likely, but enough to kill? Especially because the pain Ethan feels when dying was one of the main reasons Z didn’t go on a killing spree, I think killing out of frustration isn’t going to happen. It also would make for a worse story. Why test Ethans powers in a ‘frustration’ moment, when it can be in a climactic battle to keep Scott safe for example. Personally I would rather see how Ethan approaches heroism without knowing if his powers work a bit more, but the prevailing opinion seems to lean to ‘get him his powers back’.
oh-shit. ohshitohshitohshit.
This is about to get juicy, I just know it!
holy shit, I can’t believe it’s been 2 years since Zeke disappeared.
Wait what? How is that possible. I swear I have to keep reminding myself how long I’ve been reading this comic. I feel like it’s only been 2 years since Analog & D-Pad started.
10 years. Analog and D-Pad has been going for TEN YEARS. Help.
*Insert Matt Damon turning old meme here*
My god, you’re right O_O ( /comic/deposited-p16/ )
Alright, who’s been playing with the time_and_space remote again ?
Final ‘red eyes’ of Zeke moment was december 22 ( /comic/brannigan-p13/ )
My lord, time goes too fast
Can either of them drive though? I can’t imagine Ethan even allowed near a steering wheel, and Scott can’t drive because of his legs
They do make car modifications with hand controls, for this reason.
I had broken my back in 2 places during a car accident, while I did learn to walk agaim,I never fully recovered feeling in my right leg, so while I can drive a “normal” car I have a left-foot gas pedal.
The assumption that a disabled person can’t drive is incredibly ableist. Even people with complete paralysis of the legs can drive using adapted vehicles with hand controls
Don’t throw around labels. Just because a person doesn’t know something doesn’t make them ableist. There is a lot of really cool tech out there to help people, but you can’t assume everyone knows about it and obviously without those modifications the line of thinking would be valid. Basically, your first sentence was unnecessary and just placed blame where there was a lack of knowledge
“But if we can’t smugly throw labels at each other, how would we know who wins the oppression Olympics?” /Sarcasm
I agree with you. Instead of treating things as a teachable moment “My dude, here is how your comment could be taken as insensitive”, we assume the worst and thereby create the worst in each other.
Yea you’re right, but in this day and age of tech you have to be really ignorant to think their isn’t tech to help assist paraplegics in driving. It wasn’t the assumption that looks bad, it was stating it like it was a know fact that rubbed him the wrong way. Regardless in this comic, with a sentient robot and superheroes, you don’t think a dude without the use of his legs wouldn’t be able to find a way to drive? It’s a bit ridiculous
Being ignorant isn’t a ticket out of ableism. It only means the person has room to grow, more to learn, and still a decent chance of overcoming their unthinking biases in future when they become better aware. Unfortunately their actions still impact on people in the present. That ignorance itself also speaks to having not taken the chance to-date to find out information for themselves (for example not googling “can you drive in a wheelchair” prior to posting a related comment and spreading misinformation as a result). So while Thundervolt’s reply was probably what I’d go for – even-handed and… Read more »
Can’t edit, so: Being ignorant isn’t a ticket out of ableism. It only means the person has room to grow, more to learn, and still a decent chance of overcoming their unthinking biases in future when they become better aware. Unfortunately their actions still impact on people in the present. That ignorance itself also speaks to having not taken the chance to-date to find out information for themselves (for example not googling “can you drive in a wheelchair” prior to posting a related comment and spreading misinformation as a result); ie, this was very avoidable. Tim realised he didn’t know,… Read more »
I wasn’t trying to sound ableist, I just never heard of cars that had hand controls, I don’t drive myself because of seizures, I don’t know anyone who has mobility problems, so it doesn’t really come up in my day to day life
That’s admirable of you to respond so calmly, but unfortunately it was still a bit ignorant and ableist to comment as strongly as you did against the idea of disabled folk driving ourselves – especially when it’s already being demonstrated in situ right above this comment thread! As someone who drives a car with partial hand controls myself, essential because walking is so difficult and wheelchairs cost thousands, your comment did sting. It made me feel generally less seen in the world. And it’s hard not to be hyper-aware of the already very toxic public mindset against disability, and how… Read more »
Also FWIW I read Ethan as having untreated ADHD and also being generally immature without much long-term consequence planning. And that definitely CAN be a recipe for disaster in a driver! That being said, we’ve also seen that he can be deadly serious, ethical, caring, and take sensible decisions when it comes to the crunch. ADHD is also a massively mixed bag in how it impacts on your driving style; I have a diagnosis, no treatment as of yet, and none while learning, but personally I find the many multiple streams of information coming at you while handling a vehicle… Read more »
While I get where the mass silent downvoting is coming from on every comment explaining how unintentional ableism still impacts disabled people (it’s really frustrating to see it, but given how the world is at present, it’s unsurprising – honestly I’m glad there isn’t more, this board is apparently really nuanced and widely read?)… I honestly don’t get why I’m getting downvoted to describing how people with different neurotypes successfully drive.
I dont know what kind of idiots downvoted you. As a disabled person myself, I totally agree with you, but internet nerds arent ready to talk about ableism.
Why in the world would Ethan tell Scott to drive if Scott was incapable of driving his car?
Because Scott has his own car? I doubt just uses his wheelchair to get around the city.
I think you missed my point and are in agreement. The parent I responded to is presupposing Scott cannot drive.
And by proof by contradiction I was pointing out Ethan legitimately asking Scott to drive proves what the parent is presupposing isn’t true.
It would be nonsense for Ethan to ask that question if what they presupposed to be true. Therefore they are wrong, it is false.
Scott does drive. He does have his own car.
I don’t know how familiar you are with this comic, but Ethan is not too bright.
It’s obvious that Scott’s a driver known to Ethan for the question to be asked as it was above. Let alone Scott didn’t react as if it was impossible. Esc is reasonably calling Tim out for wildly assuming incapability due to ignorance / presumption, despite the media clearly stating otherwise.
Its funny people think there arent cars designed to accommodate disabled people, considering theres a large percentage of them
My guess? This is the beginning of a plot where Zeke reveals his evil-ish plan, and there is no way to talk him out of it. A lot of drama there, probably death risk of many sorts, and in the end it will become clear that Zeke became a villain (maybe a redeemable one), and will face Ethan again when he’s on full power, probably at the very end of the story plot.
I’ve been figuring these two story lines would intersect in a way that Zeke is the one to prove Ethan still has powers.
Showing up with Scott in tow may be the worst thing you could do
Or maybe the very best…
I know Zeke has probably been otherwise occupied (with half their head blown off and having to deal with the Master again), but having interacted with Ethan the most and having a superior computing power to meatbags… Sorry, I meant to say humans, he might be the most capable person / entity (do they identify as a “person”? I am not sure anymore) to determine if / how Ethan’s powers have been affected by the Troll.
Do we know for sure if he killed the Master or just forced him to repair the damages? Iirc the last panel we saw of Zeke was him appearing in his home and the Master having a small panic attack.
I went looking for the panel and couldn’t find when we even see Zeke again after he runs away
I found it! December 2022. https://cad-comic.com/comic/brannigan-p13/
Looks like we don’t know what happened, it is clear that he still has some damage due to the Hi hi stuttering
We don’t have any confirmation, but given the manner of their entrance and the Master being #1 on their list of hated people, it seems unlikely that Zeke only wanted repairs.
Not gonna lie, I didn’t expect Scott to be convinced so easily, guess he’s struggling with the whole bomb-in-head deal more than he let on.
Even if he doesn’t truly regret his choice as far as how it impacted on Zeke themself, he definitely regrets damaging his bond with Ethan.
Hell yeah ACTION!
Guess peoples earlier predictions are turning out right