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Wasteland

October 2, 2019 by Tim

As a side effect of my job, I mostly try to play games when they’re new, topical, popular. But, like any gamer, I have a backlog. Games that I have to simply let slide past because there’s too much on my plate, or ones that I was just flat out oblivious to.

Occassionally, I carve out a little time for those, but it’s always feels really weird for me, like you’re experiencing something in a temporal vortex. You look around like “Oh shit, did you see this cool thing the game did and–” and yeah… they saw it. Years ago. And they no longer give a shit. They already talked about all the cool things, and you weren’t a part of it.

I can’t help but notice it, enjoying a game in a bubble like that, removed from the community aspect of everyone experiencing the game together (in a parallel play sort of way) that takes place when a game first launches. Perhaps it’s just me, because games are my work and whenever I play, I’m also looking for material. But with older games, it’s sort of like “Nah, it’s not topical anymore. It’s been years, chances are someone already made that joke.”

At any rate… yeah, I finally started really playing Shadow of War last week, for some reason. Was just… in the mood, I guess. It’s, uh… it’s big. Like maybe too big. But fun for the same reasons Shadow of Mordor was fun, so there’s that.


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Eh. It’s generally like that for me. In a world where I only have a finite amount of time to play a much larger selection of games that I want, why on earth would I go and buy a game at $60 when I can get the same experience for $20 in a year?

Community doesn’t bother me. I’d never be able to keep up with the community anyways.

And unless it’s a ho-hum game, there will ALWAYS be people enjoying it for the first time after a sale.

ReaverRogue
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ReaverRogue

Dresden won’t like to hear about your lack of community spirit!

Felix Katt
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Felix Katt

This is the internet. Dresden won’t hear about it at all. (Unless Lucio tells him. Or Will. Or Bob … )

Eldest Gruff
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Eldest Gruff

Pfft, Dresden can’t tell the difference between a PlayBox and an X-Station, and the house would go up in flames the moment he got near one.

Vedrit
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Vedrit

I GET THESE REFERENCES! 😀

Waerolvirin
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Waerolvirin

I would like a donut please…

Eldest Gruff
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Eldest Gruff

Likest thou jelly within thy doughnut?

Stephen Nagy
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Stephen Nagy

Sometimes I will pounce on a game on release day, but its either something that I already tried the demo for and really really liked (Code Vein) or an expansion to something I’ve been into for a while (Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers.)

Eldest Gruff
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Eldest Gruff

I’ve pounced on very few day-one games in my time, and mostly Nintendo stuff, as they generally don’t go on sale for years. Mario Odyssey was a day-one. Pokémon X was a day-one. Final Fantasy XII was a day-one as well.

Then there’s ports – and even if it’s a bad port, if it’s already reviewed on another platform I’ll take the risk. Stardew Valley, Skyrim, and Ys VIII were day-ones for me on the Switch.

Tez
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Tez

To be fair, you probably got the better end of the deal, when Shadow Of War was typical, they were putting all the cool Orcs into look boxes. It was only after people really started to stop playing that the rollback on that BS. I loved Shadow Of Mordor but I gave Shadow Of War as miss because that.

ReaverRogue
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ReaverRogue

You know it’s funny you should start playing that again. I picked it back up on Sunday after like, 9 months without playing it after my first session.

Had no idea at ALL what I was doing! But I do remember the first nemesis I got. I killed him five times, literally. The second to last time I bisected him and he came back basically stapled together! I almost didn’t want to kill him again because, like… That’s a fucking survivor right there.

Scrysis
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Scrysis

Yeah, I almost completed the game, then got distracted by something and never finished it. It’s been so long that I had to start it from scratch recently! It really is fun at its core. Especially the ambushes when visiting a new region for the first time. My favorite is when you get a messenger. Some super high level, No last chance assassin with epic daggers/strength/scary shit shows up, and you think you’re going to die when the assassin is like, “I’m just here to taunt you and run away.” Good stuff.

Kasey
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Kasey

Then you just break his mind until he’s level one and batshit crazy. That’s what I did with *spoilers*, the traitor.

Freddie
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Freddie

For a second there, I thought that the character was known as “Spoilers, the Traitor”

Black Rose
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Black Rose

Hey, Tim. I remember a while ago we argued about microtransactions in Shadow of War. https://cad-comic.com/comic/quarter-evil/#comment-6695 Your point back then was that “The boxes maybe save a bit of time, but I never felt pressured to buy one to stay competitive. Resources and orcs were fairly abundant elsewhere.” Now you’re saying you just started to play the game. You mean you don’t need to buy lootboxes if you don’t play the game? or you had an amnesia and forgot you already played it?

Jakk Frost
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Jakk Frost

Maybe he was getting it confused with Shadow of Mordor, for which presumably the loot box system is the same?

Black Rose
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Black Rose

Shadow of Mordor didn’t have lootboxes.

Eldest Gruff
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Eldest Gruff

My backlog is full of games that I’ve played for a few solid hours, but never got through more than 10% of. He might have played for a while, had to put it down, then started fresh two years later.

Nothing on his post two years ago implies he spent a long time playing it – the end-of-game grind-fest was well-known – and he might have just simplified this post by saying ‘I just started’ right now, rather than post a lengthy description like I am.

Black Rose
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Black Rose

It’s possible, though it makes no sense anyway. The argument “I played the game and didn’t find no grindfest” is just pointless if you only played a couple of hours. Of course the devs won’t put a paywall at the beginning of their game. It’s much more effective later, when the player already invested lots of their time and effort in it. No need to tell me that.

Erik B
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Erik B

Really? A year later and you are still so upset about the stance that he took on the lootboxes? So upset that you went back through the archives to find the exact comment so you could link it here, just to see if he has amnesia or was really just trying to lie to you?

Lay down your pitchfork already.

Phil
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Phil

Peoples that dig in the past for shit to complain about are people I try to avoid like the plague and are part of a lot of problems on social media right now. They basically need to find something more productive to do.

Jakk Frost
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Jakk Frost

So you started playing it last week, “for some reason”. Just having looked it up myself because of your comic, I noticed it first launched 2 years ago last week. (I only really noticed because it launched on my birthday).

Could it be you started playing because some “2 year anniversary” thing for the game caught your attention?

DenTPuzz
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DenTPuzz

Welcome to my world! I still need to finish Shadows of Mordor!

Andhaka
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Andhaka

Ha! I still have to begin it!! So… I won…right? 😉 😀

Cheers

konaya
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konaya

You might enjoy /r/PatientGamers.

Eisbaer Borealis
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Eisbaer Borealis

This!!! There’s literally a REDDIT community devoted to talking about games that the rest of the internet has already moved on from.

Corieu
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Corieu

I only play games that came out 2 to 3 years ago. thats when steam sales kicks-in past the 65% mark. Unless its a Civ game. Or maybe some Total War. For those I usually take the 50% sale.

Never pay full price, though.

hawksharky
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hawksharky

happened to me. wasnt until after my mom died this year i got a xbox 360 given to me by my nephew. then a few months later i get destiny, that big xbox live only online multiplayer mmo scifi game. i get to the hub where all the players go when not on missions. i always heard of it described as a giant city full of players, who would trade items, chat, help each other out on missions. i finally get there………….. i saw 5 players, total in the entire city…………………they were standing in a circled……………….twerking at each other………yes im… Read more »

MechianRed
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MechianRed

Its funny. I saw the comic and I thought about the fact I started shadow of war last month and how I felt like that. Then I read the commentary only to find that the author just started shadow of war.

And yeah… it’s big.

Cathryn
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Cathryn

Yup that’s me. https://www.xkcd.com/606/

FITCamaro
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FITCamaro

Heck I’m finally trying to get around to playing RDR2.

deekeetr
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deekeetr

helluva game buddy. helluva game. I had a lot of fun with it recently only as well.

Kasey
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Kasey

Shadow of War was hella fun to start, until the same dudes started cheating death and hunting me all over the damn place; while being like 20 levels about me, mind you. Never actually finished the endgame content, as it got a bit too grindy, even for me.

That being said, I would welcome a whole bunch of SoW comics because the references are still valid and the jokes still funny.

Kilteer
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Kilteer

I did two play-throughs when the game first came out. The first run was about finding the main plot points and completing them/the game. The second round was to find all the little secrets and such.

I like the gameplay and overall the concept was great. However, I felt it lacked in content for continued interested. It all seemed to be really short, overall. I guess if I just wandered and fought random things repeatedly it would last longer… /shrug

Padraic
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Padraic

I finally got my PS4 (GoW Version!) for my birthday last year. (I Love My Wife!) I’m a fan of Assassin’s Creed, and the Batman series. You see where this is going? I’m currently playing through AC:Liberation and the China, India, and Russia games. I’m at least another year out from Syndicate, let alone Origins! Hell, I just recently passed the part with the reveal of the identity of the Arkham Knight! I’m still not finished with that game yet, because my 8yo son loves Batman and wants to be around when I play it. So, yeah, there’s feels here!

leduk
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leduk

that’s totally me with witcher3

Stephen Nagy
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Stephen Nagy

Happens sometimes. I didn’t get around to playing Undertale right away (and good gods was it worth the wait,) I just recently finished Dungeons 3, I finally got around to Yakuza 0 about three months ago, and I’ve barely started Yakuza Kiwami. Still, it can help if you’re trying to save money. Just tell yourself “Yeah I COULD get that shiny new game, but dammit will I ever find out the fate of Kazuma Kiryu at this rate?”

GreatNate
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That’s a bit creepy. I started playing Shadows of War finally on Monday. It’s been in my backlog for awhile too. Next up is infamous series since I finally have a playstation.

Arcanum
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Arcanum

IMO, Shadow of War is a good example of how more of a good thing isn’t always better. It was mainly just Shadow of Mordor, again, but more of it. It’s worse off for the “more of it”.

It also weakened or stripped out some of the more difficult nemesis traits and trait combos. No more nigh-unkillable orcs like you could get in the first game, which spoils some of the mid to late game tension.

DanVzare
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I play almost all of my games, long after they’re no longer topical. After all, you can only really find out if it’s a decent game sometime after it’s released, and what with GOTY editions and constant updates, not to mention price drops, it only makes sense to buy a game that’s been out a while.

As such, all of my experiences are in that “temporal vortex” as you put it. But for me, it just kind of feels as though I’m playing the game on my own. A bit like in the days before the internet.

Aston Whiteman
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Aston Whiteman

My backlog dates back to the 80s so yeah.

Nice comic. So older gamers with kids actually love in a post Apocalyptic bubble of time.

Makes sense..

Halosty
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Halosty

I don’t buy most games new for several reasons, first of which is my computer can’t run any AAA games and I also don’t really care about most of them. I’d only be interested if I had friends playing a specific game, otherwise I can usually wait. Well, if I had a playstation 4 I would have snapped up KH3 in an instant, but I definitely couldn’t afford a console *plus* that.

Roborat
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Roborat

I get way behind in my games. I just started playing Skyrim 6 months ago.

Him.
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Him.

Hey, if PS1 games keep after a few decades, then so do games from a few years ago.

Siliconwolf
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Siliconwolf

Me playing BoTW: OMG! Link just bought a dress from GANNON! GANNON!!! EEEEEeeee….. ok, yeah, everyone else already knows a year ago.

Tyler
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Tyler

Better late than never in my opinion. Heck it still has a lot of replayability value even after a year.

Feasood
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Feasood

I have also just started playing Shadow of War and am loving it. I’ve played 5 hours and am at only 7% :\

Twist Rolarian
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Twist Rolarian

Both Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War are in my Steam library, and I have yet to get around to play either of them. >_<

Demonicdueler
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Demonicdueler

My backlog reaches back into the PS2 era, not counting steam purchases which push it back even further, who else has an insane backlog?

Arkus0
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Arkus0

I kinda feel like that now finally plying Xenoblade X which has been gathering dust on my shelf since it launched. Fortunately the Facebook group is still active as it covers the whole franchise.

Waerolvirin
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Waerolvirin

I did the same thing about 2 months ago. Finally got around to picking up State of Decay 2, and loved it. Played it solid for almost a month, got all the Legacy cards, was working on Dread Zone… I know exactly how you feel.

NicklausG
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NicklausG

There must be something we saw recently because i reinstalled SoW last week too and …and gods how did i have time to play this? There is SO MUCH for a completionist, and they keep poppin’, and oh i HATE that guy and wow… killing him twice, best thing ever.

Bryan Porter
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Bryan Porter

Like that cubed. I don’t even think of myself as a gamer anymore, honestly. After spending my days working in IT for a living, most days I don’t even want to touch a computer when I get home. I’m more likely to just sit down and read a book on my Kindle paperwhite.

Heck, I’m still oh-so-slowly working my way through Pillars of Eternity. Not the sequel, the original. *sigh*

john
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john

Lol, way to go Tim! I forgot that I had purchased that way back when on Steam.

I will look into it after I get tired of GR:BP.