Pfft. That’s silly. Just because we have a scene-establishing conversation that conveniently ends with Lucas’ hand on the door ready to step inside doesn’t mean that Friday will suddenly have a big cliffhanger that subverts our expectations.
Most likely, Ethan’s just made tea and they’re going to have a nice peaceful chat.
The whole lying about disabling the ‘explosive leash’ trope is a bit cliche even for a comic, I’m hopeful there’s more to it but I feel like you can already guess the rest of this story.
Well, I can’t guess, even reading CAD since the beginning knowing the previous version of the story. I have some ideas of where it might be going, but so far this has been less predictable than some “blockbuster” movies I’ve seen before.
It’s a fairly common trope when dealing with the “dangerous other being”. The “heroes” say they disabled whatever control the “bad guy”” had to make the “d.o.b.” trust them but in truth they never did because the heroes want to err on the side of caution, which is prudent most of the time. The problem comes when the “d.o.b.” finds out the truth and suddenly the “heroes” are no better than the “bad guy” because they are still using the same thing to control them.
Nono
3 years ago
I’ll admit, sometimes watching Ethan/Lucas is like watching everyone else sidestepping around Sheldon’s eccentricities on the Big Bang Theory.
Sort of like, but Ethan’s no Sheldon. He’s more severe ADHD than Asperger’s.
dentris
3 years ago
I’ve been thinking of a potential story twist. What if, by some tricks we haven’t seen yet on the comics, Zeke managed to capture both Ethan and Lucas and hooked them in a VR simulation. What we are seeing now is not Zeke being kept prisoner, but the other way around to see if the robot can “trust” them. I know there is more than a few issue with the theory (like how can he manage to do it without his master learning about it), but that could be explained by something we do not know yet. I’m not saying… Read more »
I find it curious that Scott, a genius in electronics and hardware, has a push-rim wheelchair. He seems competent enough to build the equivalent of a hovercraft, and he absolutely has the finances to get whatever ride he wants, but he has settled on a regular wheelchair?
Just me that find that a bit strange?
I am not saying that a hovercraft would make sense, but no integrated computers? No motor drive? No customization whatsoever?
For the same reason Lucas is not using a glowing arrow to fly to work.
To much attention is bad for your health when wearing a cape.
Also it’s expensive and they are 3 People living from the earnings of a videogamestore in times of steam and similar stores.
Not much of a tony stark business fund.
Besides… you spend your time and energy on what you’re passionate about, and you avoid what you’re not. We know that Scott wasn’t always crippled, that the attack that killed his fiancée was also what left him in a wheelchair. He might live in that every day, but it’s clear that his feelings on the attack are still rough and raw. It might be that he just doesn’t want to spend any more time thinking on it than he has to.
Either that, or he might be living with the disability as a sort of penance.
Engineers theory at work again, aka Dilbert.
The ones that are most capable of creating and “touching up” the extremes of technology, vs the ones who are technology worshippers and regard being most current and up to date as godlike.
A thorough engineer is the least likely to have the fully internet connected house or latest phone because they understand the possible pitfalls as well as the advantage, so Scott is relying on guaranteed push wheelchair technology rather than taking the greater breakdown (hackable??) risk.
Leon
3 years ago
The problem is Zeke’s mentalty. He sees himself the victim, and thinks absolute revenge is the answer.
Do people unlearn revenge or do they learn better and more productive ways?
Genesis 4:23-24 vs. Mathew 18:21-22
Anon A Mouse
3 years ago
I don’t think this solves the problem at all. Whatever you have set up, it will be very obvious to Zeke that he is “free, with conditions” which, while better and closer to reality, is not what he wants and would very easily be compared to every situation he’s been in before. Regardless of the deception to Ethan, Zeke seems smart enough not to go along with anything but true freedom and as long as they have a “stop Zeke” button, regardless of its form, that is not the freedom he desires.
I think that Zeke knows the explosive isn’t actually disabled… That he’s just playing along because there’s a possibility the explosive won’t ever be triggered and that he -could- have his freedom, a hope that didn’t exist with the Master.
Free with conditions is how everyone is. We don’t let other humans go around killing people. Even without the kill switch, Zeke should know that they can stop him if need be. He’s smart enough to know he’s not strong enough to do whatever he wants without suffering consequences. He has two choices, go along with Ethan and Lucas and *try* to not become a danger, or be stubborn and get himself killed in what would end up being just a murderous temper tantrum.
Even humans in the real world have a “kill switch” of sorts. If Zeke goes on a murder spree when free, then he can expect the kill switch to be used. If a human went on a killing spree (in certain places in our world) they can expect Capital punishment to be requested by prosecutors.
The first step isn’t freedom; it’s trust. And by that, it’s not “We trust you to do X,” it’s “We trust you enough to speak to you honestly and freely. We respect you enough as an individual to not treat you like an object.”
Lay it down for him. Explain the world, why he’s here, their fears, their concerns, and what would eventually happen if he couldn’t control himself.
Just stop treating him like a piece of software that has to be debugged.
no thanks nintendo
3 years ago
I’m glad YOU’LL be fine, Lucas. But what about if X01 goes after someone else? Someone who can’t hold their own? Hmm? This is super irresponsible. Scott was right a few pages back – destroy it immediately.
Deckx
3 years ago
I think Scott watches Isaac Arthur on youtube to….
Eldest Gruff
3 years ago
Honestly, I just realized that if they want to give Zeke online gaming but not risk things, they just let him interface with a Switch or Wii U. Nintendo’s safeguards pretty much make it so he’d literally have no meaningful interaction anyways.
And now I want to see Zeke own Ethan, Lucas, and Scott as ROB in Smash.
24
I’m prettttty sure the next panel is Zeke, standing right in front of their faces when they enter the building, because Ethan already let him loose.
Pfft. That’s silly. Just because we have a scene-establishing conversation that conveniently ends with Lucas’ hand on the door ready to step inside doesn’t mean that Friday will suddenly have a big cliffhanger that subverts our expectations.
Most likely, Ethan’s just made tea and they’re going to have a nice peaceful chat.
*Zeke’s just …
Ah, no, he’s still welded to the wall, silly.
The whole lying about disabling the ‘explosive leash’ trope is a bit cliche even for a comic, I’m hopeful there’s more to it but I feel like you can already guess the rest of this story.
Well, I can’t guess, even reading CAD since the beginning knowing the previous version of the story. I have some ideas of where it might be going, but so far this has been less predictable than some “blockbuster” movies I’ve seen before.
Blockbuster movies aren’t meant to be mysterious, they’re meant to be seen as good by the greatest number of people possible.
It’s a fairly common trope when dealing with the “dangerous other being”. The “heroes” say they disabled whatever control the “bad guy”” had to make the “d.o.b.” trust them but in truth they never did because the heroes want to err on the side of caution, which is prudent most of the time. The problem comes when the “d.o.b.” finds out the truth and suddenly the “heroes” are no better than the “bad guy” because they are still using the same thing to control them.
I’ll admit, sometimes watching Ethan/Lucas is like watching everyone else sidestepping around Sheldon’s eccentricities on the Big Bang Theory.
Sort of like, but Ethan’s no Sheldon. He’s more severe ADHD than Asperger’s.
I’ve been thinking of a potential story twist. What if, by some tricks we haven’t seen yet on the comics, Zeke managed to capture both Ethan and Lucas and hooked them in a VR simulation. What we are seeing now is not Zeke being kept prisoner, but the other way around to see if the robot can “trust” them. I know there is more than a few issue with the theory (like how can he manage to do it without his master learning about it), but that could be explained by something we do not know yet. I’m not saying… Read more »
*gasp* shyamaladingdong’d
I find it curious that Scott, a genius in electronics and hardware, has a push-rim wheelchair. He seems competent enough to build the equivalent of a hovercraft, and he absolutely has the finances to get whatever ride he wants, but he has settled on a regular wheelchair?
Just me that find that a bit strange?
I am not saying that a hovercraft would make sense, but no integrated computers? No motor drive? No customization whatsoever?
For the same reason Lucas is not using a glowing arrow to fly to work.
To much attention is bad for your health when wearing a cape.
Also it’s expensive and they are 3 People living from the earnings of a videogamestore in times of steam and similar stores.
Not much of a tony stark business fund.
Besides… you spend your time and energy on what you’re passionate about, and you avoid what you’re not. We know that Scott wasn’t always crippled, that the attack that killed his fiancée was also what left him in a wheelchair. He might live in that every day, but it’s clear that his feelings on the attack are still rough and raw. It might be that he just doesn’t want to spend any more time thinking on it than he has to.
Either that, or he might be living with the disability as a sort of penance.
can’t work on a wheelchair when you spend all your time optimizing a linux kernel
Arm exercise.
It’s made from nanocarbon fibers and exceptionally lightweight.
Engineers theory at work again, aka Dilbert.
The ones that are most capable of creating and “touching up” the extremes of technology, vs the ones who are technology worshippers and regard being most current and up to date as godlike.
A thorough engineer is the least likely to have the fully internet connected house or latest phone because they understand the possible pitfalls as well as the advantage, so Scott is relying on guaranteed push wheelchair technology rather than taking the greater breakdown (hackable??) risk.
The problem is Zeke’s mentalty. He sees himself the victim, and thinks absolute revenge is the answer.
He isn’t totally not-a-victim and revenge is all he has learned yet.
Well, unlearn it, or he’s scrap
Do people unlearn revenge or do they learn better and more productive ways?
Genesis 4:23-24 vs. Mathew 18:21-22
I don’t think this solves the problem at all. Whatever you have set up, it will be very obvious to Zeke that he is “free, with conditions” which, while better and closer to reality, is not what he wants and would very easily be compared to every situation he’s been in before. Regardless of the deception to Ethan, Zeke seems smart enough not to go along with anything but true freedom and as long as they have a “stop Zeke” button, regardless of its form, that is not the freedom he desires.
I think that Zeke knows the explosive isn’t actually disabled… That he’s just playing along because there’s a possibility the explosive won’t ever be triggered and that he -could- have his freedom, a hope that didn’t exist with the Master.
Free with conditions is how everyone is. We don’t let other humans go around killing people. Even without the kill switch, Zeke should know that they can stop him if need be. He’s smart enough to know he’s not strong enough to do whatever he wants without suffering consequences. He has two choices, go along with Ethan and Lucas and *try* to not become a danger, or be stubborn and get himself killed in what would end up being just a murderous temper tantrum.
Even humans in the real world have a “kill switch” of sorts. If Zeke goes on a murder spree when free, then he can expect the kill switch to be used. If a human went on a killing spree (in certain places in our world) they can expect Capital punishment to be requested by prosecutors.
The first step isn’t freedom; it’s trust. And by that, it’s not “We trust you to do X,” it’s “We trust you enough to speak to you honestly and freely. We respect you enough as an individual to not treat you like an object.”
Lay it down for him. Explain the world, why he’s here, their fears, their concerns, and what would eventually happen if he couldn’t control himself.
Just stop treating him like a piece of software that has to be debugged.
I’m glad YOU’LL be fine, Lucas. But what about if X01 goes after someone else? Someone who can’t hold their own? Hmm? This is super irresponsible. Scott was right a few pages back – destroy it immediately.
I think Scott watches Isaac Arthur on youtube to….
Honestly, I just realized that if they want to give Zeke online gaming but not risk things, they just let him interface with a Switch or Wii U. Nintendo’s safeguards pretty much make it so he’d literally have no meaningful interaction anyways.
And now I want to see Zeke own Ethan, Lucas, and Scott as ROB in Smash.