Depends, would the quest have to be completed before they Resurrect him or would it be afterwards? Because the logical sensible thing would be to require the party do it first to insure they don’t try to skip out. Problem is doing a quest without your healer is a big no go.
In D&D (which pretty much sums up the system they are playing), clerics can cast the Spell “Geas”.
Geas works as a voluntary curse you place on someone. They remove the curse if they fulfill a goal previously set. If they decide to forgo the quest, Geas deals damage and lowers Max Health.
It’s usually used to put adventurers “on parole” (we take you out of jail if you go to kill the dragon to pay for your crimes). It could be used to have the cleric being resurrected before the quest.
If it’s a D&D type setting, there’s a Quest spell that compels you to complete the task (I think it can’t be obviously impossible or suicidal), and the standard procedure for this sort of thing would be for the party to willingly forgo their saving throws against the spell in return for the resurrection (including the resurrected person).
It could be less of a “smash things till they’re dead” type of quest and more of a “drink this elixir that causes you to face your fears. It’ll cause you no physical harm, if you conquer them, then we’ll gladly revive your friend”.
No healer required when it’s basically a solo dungeon run for each player. Though lord have mercy on any DM trying to run that.
I actually did something like that for part of a dungeon. The characters got split up and faced their deepest fears. They actually couldn’t win that part except if they realized it was just an illusion. It was a handful dealing with 5 different deadly encounters at the same time. Some of them were combat, others were stuff like walls moving in or the floor becoming quicksand. They only were able to see a single party member who wasn’t affected by the illusions (I gave the player a slip of paper telling him what was going on and also that… Read more »
Gonfrask
1 year ago
Nope, no side quest right now…
They are going to finish in a shady backyard, right?
Rolando
1 year ago
Big no. Those quests and the involved deities always have a “you need sincere belief/loyalty to me and my ideals” clause. Along with a “I can tell if you’re not sincere” thingy.
Your mother was a Kobold, and your father smelt like a botched resurrection.
Lily
1 year ago
You need to ask what sort of quest it is, since it could be something fairly simple, and which might also earn you loot.
Cyrad
1 year ago
To be fair to the players, it is kind of a dick move to railroad the party into a pointless side-quest to save a GMPC that no one really liked that much.
Yeah, true it look like railroading. Then again its been like 6 or 7 campaigns, so I think that cleric must be high level.
Getting a new character of lower level will be a disadvantage.
It would be railroading if it was said “this is the only way to bring this character back”, but the party clearly has some options to explore. The party also chose to try for the resurrection on their own, absent any prodding/insistence from Player 3.
Don’t confuse ‘things the party does’ with ‘things the DM makes the party do’.
Just because the DM could override anything and tell whatever story they want doesn’t mean the story that’s happening is purely decided by DM override. The DM is just giving options, it’s up to the party to decide if they want to pursue any of them. The party decided they want to get Tobyn back, and the DM is currently offering them ways to do that (Pay 10k? Do a side quest? Do [whatever comes up next page]?)
Marsh
1 year ago
I love this chapter! Additional lore, amazing backgrounds and the subtle humour! Looking forward to how the rest of it pans out.
Drew
1 year ago
OK, maybe I don’t know D&D well enough. If the GM is injured, and he obviously is, would he want to make it easy for the people to get him resurrected? I mean, 10K coins? They’re gonna balk at that. Doing a side quest for a “god” they’re not even sure of? About the same.
Does the GM really have that little power that they can’t make it easy?
It was mentioned under the previous page that this spell is offered in official D&D for twice and a half as much. The DM is just being a good professional DM and sticking to his DM guns, which are to provide a fair challenge at all times and in all ways. He said as much when he first fell.
A good GM can take himself out of the equation by allowing the other PCs to make the decision and still providing them a challenge or difficult choice even if that lowers his own PCs chances of coming back. Not to mention that, since Tobyn is dead, he can’t make any decisions or have an opinion on the issue and 3 isn’t allowing himself to steer the decision-making in a certain direction. As far as the GM’s power, they can do anything they want in all honesty. There are rules for how the game itself runs, but as far as… Read more »
Heck I would probably guess the reason 3 rolled a cleric in the first place is because the other 3 players refused to play anything close to resembling support and it’ll be suicide without one. He’s going so far as to make sure the players have a good time they don’t even have to play a role they don’t want to by filling the gap himself to make the party at least viable.
Though I also suspect 3 is the kind of gamer that generally plays support anyway. Not because he has to, but because he likes to
Jayle
1 year ago
I love this group
“Gotta save the PC, unless it costs us money , or time.”
J.D.
1 year ago
Sounds Like they are trying to get him Resurrected thru Ticketmaster
Really? Here I would think the quest would be much less painful and the gold far cheaper than Ticketmaster. Then again my only experience with Ticketmaster is through stuff like that RyanGeorge Video.
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Sounds like a fair trade to me!
Depends, would the quest have to be completed before they Resurrect him or would it be afterwards? Because the logical sensible thing would be to require the party do it first to insure they don’t try to skip out. Problem is doing a quest without your healer is a big no go.
In D&D (which pretty much sums up the system they are playing), clerics can cast the Spell “Geas”.
Geas works as a voluntary curse you place on someone. They remove the curse if they fulfill a goal previously set. If they decide to forgo the quest, Geas deals damage and lowers Max Health.
It’s usually used to put adventurers “on parole” (we take you out of jail if you go to kill the dragon to pay for your crimes). It could be used to have the cleric being resurrected before the quest.
Well…you can always reverse the resurrection…
If it’s a D&D type setting, there’s a Quest spell that compels you to complete the task (I think it can’t be obviously impossible or suicidal), and the standard procedure for this sort of thing would be for the party to willingly forgo their saving throws against the spell in return for the resurrection (including the resurrected person).
It could be less of a “smash things till they’re dead” type of quest and more of a “drink this elixir that causes you to face your fears. It’ll cause you no physical harm, if you conquer them, then we’ll gladly revive your friend”.
No healer required when it’s basically a solo dungeon run for each player. Though lord have mercy on any DM trying to run that.
I actually did something like that for part of a dungeon. The characters got split up and faced their deepest fears. They actually couldn’t win that part except if they realized it was just an illusion. It was a handful dealing with 5 different deadly encounters at the same time. Some of them were combat, others were stuff like walls moving in or the floor becoming quicksand. They only were able to see a single party member who wasn’t affected by the illusions (I gave the player a slip of paper telling him what was going on and also that… Read more »
Nope, no side quest right now…
They are going to finish in a shady backyard, right?
Big no. Those quests and the involved deities always have a “you need sincere belief/loyalty to me and my ideals” clause. Along with a “I can tell if you’re not sincere” thingy.
Before you know it, they’re asking for the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow.
Your mother was a Kobold, and your father smelt like a botched resurrection.
You need to ask what sort of quest it is, since it could be something fairly simple, and which might also earn you loot.
To be fair to the players, it is kind of a dick move to railroad the party into a pointless side-quest to save a GMPC that no one really liked that much.
Yeah, true it look like railroading. Then again its been like 6 or 7 campaigns, so I think that cleric must be high level.
Getting a new character of lower level will be a disadvantage.
r o f l , so many people parroting DnD terms they learned on reddit and have no idea how they actually apply , much less what a real game looks like.
It would be railroading if it was said “this is the only way to bring this character back”, but the party clearly has some options to explore. The party also chose to try for the resurrection on their own, absent any prodding/insistence from Player 3.
Don’t confuse ‘things the party does’ with ‘things the DM makes the party do’.
Just because the DM could override anything and tell whatever story they want doesn’t mean the story that’s happening is purely decided by DM override. The DM is just giving options, it’s up to the party to decide if they want to pursue any of them. The party decided they want to get Tobyn back, and the DM is currently offering them ways to do that (Pay 10k? Do a side quest? Do [whatever comes up next page]?)
I love this chapter! Additional lore, amazing backgrounds and the subtle humour! Looking forward to how the rest of it pans out.
OK, maybe I don’t know D&D well enough. If the GM is injured, and he obviously is, would he want to make it easy for the people to get him resurrected? I mean, 10K coins? They’re gonna balk at that. Doing a side quest for a “god” they’re not even sure of? About the same.
Does the GM really have that little power that they can’t make it easy?
It was mentioned under the previous page that this spell is offered in official D&D for twice and a half as much. The DM is just being a good professional DM and sticking to his DM guns, which are to provide a fair challenge at all times and in all ways. He said as much when he first fell.
A good GM can take himself out of the equation by allowing the other PCs to make the decision and still providing them a challenge or difficult choice even if that lowers his own PCs chances of coming back. Not to mention that, since Tobyn is dead, he can’t make any decisions or have an opinion on the issue and 3 isn’t allowing himself to steer the decision-making in a certain direction. As far as the GM’s power, they can do anything they want in all honesty. There are rules for how the game itself runs, but as far as… Read more »
Heck I would probably guess the reason 3 rolled a cleric in the first place is because the other 3 players refused to play anything close to resembling support and it’ll be suicide without one. He’s going so far as to make sure the players have a good time they don’t even have to play a role they don’t want to by filling the gap himself to make the party at least viable.
Though I also suspect 3 is the kind of gamer that generally plays support anyway. Not because he has to, but because he likes to
I love this group
“Gotta save the PC, unless it costs us money , or time.”
Sounds Like they are trying to get him Resurrected thru Ticketmaster
Really? Here I would think the quest would be much less painful and the gold far cheaper than Ticketmaster. Then again my only experience with Ticketmaster is through stuff like that RyanGeorge Video.
dying is easier and cheaper then going thru ticket master
Money out. Quests out. What’s left?
You had to ask…
I understand the lack of a healer, plus being one man down, makes them less inclined to go on dangerous quests right now.
And I doubt the quest will be an easy one. Specially since Tobyn follow another deity, and they follow none.
They COULD try to seek the favor of the deity Tobyn follows, but I doubt He’s inclined to help. He’s already involved Himself directly once.
I say, I happen to know of another way of resurrection, curtesy of Powerwolf…